Business Class and Economy Class Interaction QUESTION
Jun 21, 2016, 9:46 pm
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Jun 21, 2016, 9:49 pm
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Jun 22, 2016, 12:01 am
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Jun 22, 2016, 12:31 am
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Just to share my experience.
on a flight back from Int'l flight earlier this year (2 class - J and Y only), a SE that seat behind me (row 13) keep going up to the J cabin like 5 times in an hour. But on the 6th times, a FA stop the guy and say he can't do that. The guy ignore the FA and continue walk toward his friend in J. SD came over, ask the guy to go back to his Y seat and then state that his friend can come back but he can't go up. The guy said "I am Super Elite so how can this rule apply to me?" and SD say no and explain to him again. The guy sound very upset. Later when my wife came to visit me (she is in J - last row), she made a comment that when this DYKWIA guy that seat behind me came up to J cabin, he was chatting to his friends quite loud. So, perhaps, the FA/SD didn't really care at first knowing he is SE (SD came over at the beginning of the flight to greet the guy), but some J PAX might have complain to J FA / SD and hence they have to stop the guy from coming up to J.
OP - to me, your biggest issue will be that she is walking up from Y to J thru PY/PE cabin. The number of times when I get my wife sit in J while my daughter and myself if Y, I always make sure it is last row J and first row Y, so, it is just a quick swing over.
As suggested by others, I would also let your GF go to J and you back to Y. Mention it as you board the flight to FA or SD so they know why a female seating at a male PAX seat as the manifest will show a male PAX. I had done this many times with my wife and I found those are flights that the FA actually treat me very well. so, you start off on a good note to the FA / SD. Then half way thru the flight, during the "sleeping hours" your GF be the one that ask the J FA or SD if she can swap the seat back with you so "you - the super nice BF" can get some nice sleep too, they might be more than willing to let me get what you initially could have if you don't swap the seat at first.
Good Luck.
on a flight back from Int'l flight earlier this year (2 class - J and Y only), a SE that seat behind me (row 13) keep going up to the J cabin like 5 times in an hour. But on the 6th times, a FA stop the guy and say he can't do that. The guy ignore the FA and continue walk toward his friend in J. SD came over, ask the guy to go back to his Y seat and then state that his friend can come back but he can't go up. The guy said "I am Super Elite so how can this rule apply to me?" and SD say no and explain to him again. The guy sound very upset. Later when my wife came to visit me (she is in J - last row), she made a comment that when this DYKWIA guy that seat behind me came up to J cabin, he was chatting to his friends quite loud. So, perhaps, the FA/SD didn't really care at first knowing he is SE (SD came over at the beginning of the flight to greet the guy), but some J PAX might have complain to J FA / SD and hence they have to stop the guy from coming up to J.
OP - to me, your biggest issue will be that she is walking up from Y to J thru PY/PE cabin. The number of times when I get my wife sit in J while my daughter and myself if Y, I always make sure it is last row J and first row Y, so, it is just a quick swing over.
As suggested by others, I would also let your GF go to J and you back to Y. Mention it as you board the flight to FA or SD so they know why a female seating at a male PAX seat as the manifest will show a male PAX. I had done this many times with my wife and I found those are flights that the FA actually treat me very well. so, you start off on a good note to the FA / SD. Then half way thru the flight, during the "sleeping hours" your GF be the one that ask the J FA or SD if she can swap the seat back with you so "you - the super nice BF" can get some nice sleep too, they might be more than willing to let me get what you initially could have if you don't swap the seat at first.
Good Luck.
Jun 22, 2016, 6:56 am
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Actually thats a good point, if its an OPM ticket, guess is there is some expectation of the OP being functional on arrival justifying the money being spent on the ticket.
Jun 22, 2016, 7:45 am
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Jun 22, 2016, 10:05 am
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If you get in at 7pm Saturday and need to be functional for Monday you're good. If you arrive 3am Sunday and have a 9am presentation with a 12h timezone change, well I would argue you may need that seat more than her.
Other considerations... not to be personal here but how big are you both? If I'm 2m tall and my gf is 150cm then again I'd argue she's going to survive economy better than me.
Presumably, someone going with you on this trip is someone you've been seeing for a while so I'd certainly have a conversation depending upon needs. Then buy an LMU.
If you can't afford or get an LMU to J, get one to PY (again if possible) and sit there while she's in J. if nothing else you'll be a lot closer and improve the odds of swapping. I'm making an assumption there is a PY on your flight, and I don't think that's at 100% yet on that route?
Jun 22, 2016, 10:10 am
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....Presumably, someone going with you on this trip is someone you've been seeing for a while so I'd certainly have a conversation depending upon needs. Then buy an LMU.
If you can't afford or get an LMU to J, get one to PY (again if possible) and sit there while she's in J. if nothing else you'll be a lot closer and improve the odds of swapping. I'm making an assumption there is a PY on your flight, and I don't think that's at 100% yet on that route?
If you can't afford or get an LMU to J, get one to PY (again if possible) and sit there while she's in J. if nothing else you'll be a lot closer and improve the odds of swapping. I'm making an assumption there is a PY on your flight, and I don't think that's at 100% yet on that route?
Upthread, I had suggested alternate seats:
Since I 've flown this 4 times recently, I knew the cabin
AC 15/16 is this and yes, PE too
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Jun 22, 2016, 11:37 am
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Oh yes sorry I did read that and forgot.
Unless I'm mistaken that's the layout that completely curtains off PY from J too and yet half of PY uses the foward washrooms.
Presumably, especially given AC's newfound ability to address J passengers by name one would need to at least mention to a FA/SD that they are changing seats. I'm fairly sure eyebrows would be raised if the gender of the seat occupant doesn't match. In fact, don't FAs generally people changing seats because of seat plans in the event of, something bad happening?
Unless I'm mistaken that's the layout that completely curtains off PY from J too and yet half of PY uses the foward washrooms.
Presumably, especially given AC's newfound ability to address J passengers by name one would need to at least mention to a FA/SD that they are changing seats. I'm fairly sure eyebrows would be raised if the gender of the seat occupant doesn't match. In fact, don't FAs generally people changing seats because of seat plans in the event of, something bad happening?
Jun 22, 2016, 11:40 am
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I used to not really care about stuff like this, until I actually had a couple poor experiences with "interaction" of a J and Y passenger.
Now, I won't put up with it.
If one swap disturbs me (and if I notice it, that means you've distracted me from my movie, so it's disturbed me), I'm letting the SD know that it disturbed me.
If the "interaction" increases (talking in J when one of you is standing in the aisle near me, constant switching, passing food/drinks around, shouting at each other between cabins, etc.), so will my complaints.
Now, I won't put up with it.
If one swap disturbs me (and if I notice it, that means you've distracted me from my movie, so it's disturbed me), I'm letting the SD know that it disturbed me.
If the "interaction" increases (talking in J when one of you is standing in the aisle near me, constant switching, passing food/drinks around, shouting at each other between cabins, etc.), so will my complaints.
Jun 22, 2016, 6:06 pm
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I used to not really care about stuff like this, until I actually had a couple poor experiences with "interaction" of a J and Y passenger.
Now, I won't put up with it.
If one swap disturbs me (and if I notice it, that means you've distracted me from my movie, so it's disturbed me), I'm letting the SD know that it disturbed me.
If the "interaction" increases (talking in J when one of you is standing in the aisle near me, constant switching, passing food/drinks around, shouting at each other between cabins, etc.), so will my complaints.
Now, I won't put up with it.
If one swap disturbs me (and if I notice it, that means you've distracted me from my movie, so it's disturbed me), I'm letting the SD know that it disturbed me.
If the "interaction" increases (talking in J when one of you is standing in the aisle near me, constant switching, passing food/drinks around, shouting at each other between cabins, etc.), so will my complaints.
Jun 22, 2016, 6:10 pm
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Just to share my experience.
on a flight back from Int'l flight earlier this year (2 class - J and Y only), a SE that seat behind me (row 13) keep going up to the J cabin like 5 times in an hour. But on the 6th times, a FA stop the guy and say he can't do that. The guy ignore the FA and continue walk toward his friend in J. SD came over, ask the guy to go back to his Y seat and then state that his friend can come back but he can't go up. The guy said "I am Super Elite so how can this rule apply to me?" and SD say no and explain to him again. The guy sound very upset. Later when my wife came to visit me (she is in J - last row), she made a comment that when this DYKWIA guy that seat behind me came up to J cabin, he was chatting to his friends quite loud. So, perhaps, the FA/SD didn't really care at first knowing he is SE (SD came over at the beginning of the flight to greet the guy), but some J PAX might have complain to J FA / SD and hence they have to stop the guy from coming up to J.
OP - to me, your biggest issue will be that she is walking up from Y to J thru PY/PE cabin. The number of times when I get my wife sit in J while my daughter and myself if Y, I always make sure it is last row J and first row Y, so, it is just a quick swing over.
As suggested by others, I would also let your GF go to J and you back to Y. Mention it as you board the flight to FA or SD so they know why a female seating at a male PAX seat as the manifest will show a male PAX. I had done this many times with my wife and I found those are flights that the FA actually treat me very well. so, you start off on a good note to the FA / SD. Then half way thru the flight, during the "sleeping hours" your GF be the one that ask the J FA or SD if she can swap the seat back with you so "you - the super nice BF" can get some nice sleep too, they might be more than willing to let me get what you initially could have if you don't swap the seat at first.
Good Luck.
on a flight back from Int'l flight earlier this year (2 class - J and Y only), a SE that seat behind me (row 13) keep going up to the J cabin like 5 times in an hour. But on the 6th times, a FA stop the guy and say he can't do that. The guy ignore the FA and continue walk toward his friend in J. SD came over, ask the guy to go back to his Y seat and then state that his friend can come back but he can't go up. The guy said "I am Super Elite so how can this rule apply to me?" and SD say no and explain to him again. The guy sound very upset. Later when my wife came to visit me (she is in J - last row), she made a comment that when this DYKWIA guy that seat behind me came up to J cabin, he was chatting to his friends quite loud. So, perhaps, the FA/SD didn't really care at first knowing he is SE (SD came over at the beginning of the flight to greet the guy), but some J PAX might have complain to J FA / SD and hence they have to stop the guy from coming up to J.
OP - to me, your biggest issue will be that she is walking up from Y to J thru PY/PE cabin. The number of times when I get my wife sit in J while my daughter and myself if Y, I always make sure it is last row J and first row Y, so, it is just a quick swing over.
As suggested by others, I would also let your GF go to J and you back to Y. Mention it as you board the flight to FA or SD so they know why a female seating at a male PAX seat as the manifest will show a male PAX. I had done this many times with my wife and I found those are flights that the FA actually treat me very well. so, you start off on a good note to the FA / SD. Then half way thru the flight, during the "sleeping hours" your GF be the one that ask the J FA or SD if she can swap the seat back with you so "you - the super nice BF" can get some nice sleep too, they might be more than willing to let me get what you initially could have if you don't swap the seat at first.
Good Luck.
Jun 22, 2016, 6:12 pm
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I was at a BBQ tonight and 2 of my friends who are flight attendants were there. I posed the OP's question to them. They both agreed that the OP is welcome to go fro J to Y to 'interact' with his girlfriend but she cannot go up to J. They also agreed that switching seats mid-flight is not allowed.
People pay big bucks to be in Business Class, they want the space and peace. You can't have Economy passengers coming up for 'interaction'. That just dilutes the product.
I was at a BBQ tonight and 2 of my friends who are flight attendants were there. I posed the OP's question to them. They both agreed that the OP is welcome to go fro J to Y to 'interact' with his girlfriend but she cannot go up to J. They also agreed that switching seats mid-flight is not allowed.
People pay big bucks to be in Business Class, they want the space and peace. You can't have Economy passengers coming up for 'interaction'. That just dilutes the product.
