FAQ: Unattended bag in yyz D depart. Lounge ignore by staff
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Unattended bag in yyz D depart. Lounge ignore by staff
Flying tonight within Canada, using AC lounge in YYZ gates D area. Near our seat was a large black briefcase. It had been unattended since we arrived 20 minutes before.
I reported it to one of the two reception desk agents (the one with short dark hair on duty at 7pm est).
She brushed me off. I had to physically show her the bag. Assuming she would address it, i went to the restroom.
When I returned, the bag was still where we left it. The attendant was back at her desk chking her text messages.
Frustrated with her casual approach, I stupidly picked up the briefcase and left it on her counter.
She shouted at me to "put it back where I found it!" I returned to my seat.
A few moments later, this attendant brought the bag back, lectured me, and left it unattended once again.
10 minutes later some type of supervisor came over. She told me that I should not have touched the bag. I asked if they understood the risk involved, especially now, with airlines. I asked if they intended to take any action.
She smiled to humor me and left, with the bag remaining unattended. A few minutes later, someone announced over the loud speaker that a bag had been left unattended. Luckily, someone claimed it.
I was astounded at the lack of security awareness and protocols. Shame on you AC! I will be pursuing this with the authorities.
I reported it to one of the two reception desk agents (the one with short dark hair on duty at 7pm est).
She brushed me off. I had to physically show her the bag. Assuming she would address it, i went to the restroom.
When I returned, the bag was still where we left it. The attendant was back at her desk chking her text messages.
Frustrated with her casual approach, I stupidly picked up the briefcase and left it on her counter.
She shouted at me to "put it back where I found it!" I returned to my seat.
A few moments later, this attendant brought the bag back, lectured me, and left it unattended once again.
10 minutes later some type of supervisor came over. She told me that I should not have touched the bag. I asked if they understood the risk involved, especially now, with airlines. I asked if they intended to take any action.
She smiled to humor me and left, with the bag remaining unattended. A few minutes later, someone announced over the loud speaker that a bag had been left unattended. Luckily, someone claimed it.
I was astounded at the lack of security awareness and protocols. Shame on you AC! I will be pursuing this with the authorities.
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Absolutely atrocious behavior yet again by AC staff. Ben, if you're reading.
Next time I'd call the Police non emergency line and report it. I bet you Peel Regional will step in rather quickly.
Next time I'd call the Police non emergency line and report it. I bet you Peel Regional will step in rather quickly.
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It all gets back to the behaviour of the lounge personnel. Personally, I am grateful the OP spoke up. I am even more grateful and appreciative that the OP took that briefcase and handed it over to the agent. Better he should blow up than me. (Seriously folks, never ever touch unattended luggage, you don't know if it has been armed for detonation.)
Perhaps it's time AC provide a security refresher course for personnel. AC reminds me of TG more and more. Hopefully, the OP files a complaint with the MoT .
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Since the bag was checked by security the threat should be 0. Isn't the lounge after all the security checks? And furthermore why bother the staff, they are always busy chatting/gossiping or texting.
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The above pair of posts bring some much-needed perspective. The only bit I don't understand is why the lounge attendants couldn't simply place the bag in the lost & found cabinet. Considering the near certitude that the bag was harmless and abandoned, why expose it to the possibility of theft?
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So what did the person who came and retrieve the bag look like? (And curious to know if there were there elite tags on the bag?)
As for the matter itself, I agree with others who wonder why this would even be an issue since it would have been screened by security at some point. And why would anyone want to blow up an AC gate...okay, I get that after reading many of the posts around here, but really?!
I think too many people are paranoid and lack a rational perspective on things like this. Or just watch too many Hollywood movies.
As for the matter itself, I agree with others who wonder why this would even be an issue since it would have been screened by security at some point. And why would anyone want to blow up an AC gate...okay, I get that after reading many of the posts around here, but really?!
I think too many people are paranoid and lack a rational perspective on things like this. Or just watch too many Hollywood movies.
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The OP reminded me of Chris Rock's "No Sex" song, and the part about not going to parties/clubs with metal detectors - you're only safe on the inside.
When I returned, the bag was still where we left it. The attendant was back at her desk chking her text messages.
Frustrated with her casual approach, I stupidly picked up the briefcase and left it on her counter.
Shame on you AC! I will be pursuing this with the authorities.
Frustrated with her casual approach, I stupidly picked up the briefcase and left it on her counter.
Shame on you AC! I will be pursuing this with the authorities.
+1 - That was my thought before even clicking the thread. First time I recall seeing this topic on the AC forum. Hardly something I'd call "frequent."