SFO-YVR Rouge rarely on time?
May 20, 2015, 10:58 am
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SFO-YVR Rouge rarely on time?
I need to do SFO-YVR, have never flown Rouge, checking last week or so this route mid-day is almost always delayed it seems 30-60+ minutes. Besides the lack of seat comfort, is Rouge unreliable operationally in general, or perhaps something about this route in particular?
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May 20, 2015, 11:31 am
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SFO is notorious for fog-related delays. And my understanding is that when that happens, SFO says "AC, you are normally allowed 2 landings per hour. We're going to have to change that to 1 landing per hour for the next 5 hours."
So they can delay the YVR flight, the YYZ flight, or the YUL flight. They, like every other airline, are going to delay the shorter flight that probably hasn't taken off yet.
Anyway, for data:
AC 1843: 98% OT. Delay average 4m max 17m
AC 1845: 71% OT. Delay average 48m max 3h22m (I assume this is the flight you're talking about)
AC 1847: 79% OT. Delay average 27m max 1h 52m (or maybe this one)
Wow. I guess I've been lucky...
So they can delay the YVR flight, the YYZ flight, or the YUL flight. They, like every other airline, are going to delay the shorter flight that probably hasn't taken off yet.
Anyway, for data:
AC 1843: 98% OT. Delay average 4m max 17m
AC 1845: 71% OT. Delay average 48m max 3h22m (I assume this is the flight you're talking about)
AC 1847: 79% OT. Delay average 27m max 1h 52m (or maybe this one)
Wow. I guess I've been lucky...
May 20, 2015, 12:14 pm
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Fog, or rain. Issue is that the two parallel runways are too close to each other. When visibility is not there they only operate with one instead of two.
May 20, 2015, 1:06 pm
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May 20, 2015, 2:17 pm
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I've had to wait 2-3 hours in YVR for them to allow us to leave. Multiple times.
I'll host a proper SFO Do in a couple months.
May 20, 2015, 3:08 pm
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In addition to the weather delays @ SFO, last year they were doing runway construction.
About a year ago, I was on my usual AC morning flight westbound, not paying much attention when someone said "hey, we're going the wrong way"
So quality of IFE aside, I took some photos of the screen.
Also, you know that if the flight into SFO is delayed, then obviously the flight out of SFO is also going to be delayed, because they need the aircraft.
Fun for all and mildly amusing. More nuts please.
About a year ago, I was on my usual AC morning flight westbound, not paying much attention when someone said "hey, we're going the wrong way"
So quality of IFE aside, I took some photos of the screen.
Also, you know that if the flight into SFO is delayed, then obviously the flight out of SFO is also going to be delayed, because they need the aircraft.
Fun for all and mildly amusing. More nuts please.
May 20, 2015, 4:25 pm
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The early morning departure is always the most reliable as the plane sat there overnight. So it will go unless the fog is really bad and they are restricting departures. The later departures turn back from incoming YVR-SFO flights and often SFO will tell the airlines of certain flights within certain distances not to depart until a certain time.
Flights from YYZ and YUL are less affected by this due to the flight time
Flights from YYZ and YUL are less affected by this due to the flight time
May 20, 2015, 4:32 pm
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Yesterday I flew LAX-SFO-YYJ booked on UA. Both flights were delayed >2hrs for inbound aircraft problems (and was rebooked onto AA for the first segment). I know better than booking the late flights... But I got to try out the SilverKris lounge. ^
Next time I'll try the Eva lounge.
Next time I'll try the Eva lounge.
May 21, 2015, 10:39 am
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Having worked under WS, we had a mid morning departure to SFO that was delayed probably 7-8 days out of every 10. UA would be late, but they would get the better times, WS was always third fiddle. Delays can run anywhere from 10 minutes to 2-3 hours, then when it's time to go you've got 15 minutes to push out or risk losing the slot. There was definitely a couple times where we didn't have a ground crew that was free and the flight missed it's slot.
If you really need to fly in the morning, fly UA. If you need to fly Rouge, try flying in the afternoon if possible. If none of those are options, pray
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By contrast, I flew SFO-YVR first thing in the morning, no issues other than taxiing from SFO to OAK it felt so long.
Edit: Just realized you had the thread as SFO-YVR in the title, all my info applies still but at least your departure times should be a bit more certain at the originating station than the outpost.
If you really need to fly in the morning, fly UA. If you need to fly Rouge, try flying in the afternoon if possible. If none of those are options, pray
.By contrast, I flew SFO-YVR first thing in the morning, no issues other than taxiing from SFO to OAK it felt so long.
Edit: Just realized you had the thread as SFO-YVR in the title, all my info applies still but at least your departure times should be a bit more certain at the originating station than the outpost.
May 21, 2015, 10:45 am
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Fog & low ceiling related delays at SFO are going to be with us for quite some time. I wonder if AC will ever re-instate flights to SJC?
May 21, 2015, 10:54 am
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Yes, and there have been discussions for more than 20 years to fix the problem, but that would mean construction in the bay and placing more landfill in the bay. Getting past all of the environmental impact studies and compensatory bay recovery somewhere is a nightmare.
Fog & low ceiling related delays at SFO are going to be with us for quite some time. I wonder if AC will ever re-instate flights to SJC?
Fog & low ceiling related delays at SFO are going to be with us for quite some time. I wonder if AC will ever re-instate flights to SJC?
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May 21, 2015, 12:18 pm
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Yes, and there have been discussions for more than 20 years to fix the problem, but that would mean construction in the bay and placing more landfill in the bay. Getting past all of the environmental impact studies and compensatory bay recovery somewhere is a nightmare.
Fog & low ceiling related delays at SFO are going to be with us for quite some time. I wonder if AC will ever re-instate flights to SJC?
Fog & low ceiling related delays at SFO are going to be with us for quite some time. I wonder if AC will ever re-instate flights to SJC?
