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Old May 21, 2015, 5:30 pm
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Well I have an embarrassing mistake to admit.

When I ported everything from Python to Java (which had a huge speed improvement), I screwed up one line.

As a result, I overcounted what I expected to earn by about 40%.

I am now much less confident about being #1

Sigh.
Should've just stuck to the python version with my bug free scoring function...

Ah well, we both have the same itin now... The point is to fly, drink, eat, sleep. Rank envy is pointless... (No pun intended)
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Old May 22, 2015, 4:09 pm
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It looks like we are gonna have more than 20 ppl in the top20 this time. There are a few ppl I know who have exactly the same itineraries....
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Old May 22, 2015, 4:12 pm
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Originally Posted by supremekai
It looks like we are gonna have more than 20 ppl in the top20 this time. There are a few ppl I know who have exactly the same itineraries....
So if one of them books one other flight, they'll have an extra 200 points?

What do we think the cutoff is going to be for top 20?
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Old May 22, 2015, 4:31 pm
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So if one of them books one other flight, they'll have an extra 200 points?

What do we think the cutoff is going to be for top 20?
Or just skip one altitude community badge. If they are smart enough

I'd say the cutoff is going to be around 80k wings :-)
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Old May 22, 2015, 4:48 pm
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I also think around 80k will be around the cutoff.
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Old May 22, 2015, 5:09 pm
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Well let's just hope there are fewer than 19* people who think that, or at least one person is screwed.

*Drunk Cargo and I are in the three digits. I'm not sure about anyone else.
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Old May 22, 2015, 5:45 pm
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I should also be in the 3 digits.

Last time the cutoff was around 65, no?
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Old May 22, 2015, 5:52 pm
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Originally Posted by Bonaventure
I should also be in the 3 digits.

Last time the cutoff was around 65, no?
I think so, but it's definitely going to be higher this time. There are a lot more people trying very hard to get in the top 20
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Old May 22, 2015, 7:46 pm
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It looks like we are gonna have more than 20 ppl in the top20 this time. There are a few ppl I know who have exactly the same itineraries....
They should spread themselves out by a few hundred miles, otherwise it dilutes the jackpot for everyone in the top 20.
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Old May 22, 2015, 8:02 pm
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Originally Posted by yvr76
They should spread themselves out by a few hundred miles, otherwise it dilutes the jackpot for everyone in the top 20.
Depends how they count the "top 20" and where the ties are.

If two people tie for first and no one else ties, I would expect 20 people to get 500k.
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Old May 23, 2015, 7:38 am
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
Depends how they count the "top 20" and where the ties are.

If two people tie for first and no one else ties, I would expect 20 people to get 500k.
That is correct. It only matters if positions 20 and 21 are tied. Having said that, if there are six tied scores spanning the 20 to 25 position, the pot will be split by 25 and there will be 25 winners with 400k each instead of 500k.

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Old May 23, 2015, 7:57 am
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Depends how they count the "top 20" and where the ties are.

If two people tie for first and no one else ties, I would expect 20 people to get 500k.


That is correct. It only matters if positions 20 and 21 are tied. Having said that, if there are six tied scores spanning the 20 to 25 position, the pot will be split by 25 and there will be 25 winners with 400k each instead of 500k.

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You both may want to take a look at how the leaderboard ranking is done before making such erroneous assumption.
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Old May 23, 2015, 8:55 am
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Originally Posted by YYT82
You both may want to take a look at how the leaderboard ranking is done before making such erroneous assumption.
You are entitled to your opinion, but facts are appreciated more than vague suppositions.

I have participated in every EYW contest that AC has run and I know for a fact that in previous contests ties didn't matter unless AC was unable to positively ID the top 20 wing positions. We have had ties in the top 20 previously, but never in the 20/21 positions. Unless AC is changing the rules this time around (facts please), it is reasonable to assume that this is how it will work this time as well.

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Old May 23, 2015, 9:19 am
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Originally Posted by Snow Goose
You are entitled to your opinion, but facts are appreciated more than vague suppositions.

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You want to re-edit your post to exclude your own text from what you quoted of me? Making the second paragraph appearing to be mine is not cool. I only had a single sentence based on what I saw in looking at the leaderboards at the moment, which has 23 people ranked in the top 20.
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Old May 23, 2015, 9:47 am
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Originally Posted by YYT82
You want to re-edit your post to exclude your own text from what you quoted of me? Making the second paragraph appearing to be mine is not cool. I only had a single sentence based on what I saw in looking at the leaderboards at the moment, which has 23 people ranked in the top 20.
Edit completed - it was an honest mistake based on typing on an iPhone. Please don't rush to judgment.

As a final note, I understand where your original point was coming from. Previous leaderboards did the same ranking (i.e. two people in spot 13 are both assigned #13). However this is not how the true top twenty are assessed at contest close. If your rank says #20 at contest close but there are two #13's, you won't win the prize. AC IT has struggled with every single EYW contest.

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