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Old Mar 31, 2015, 6:15 am
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Loyalty programmes hacked - could Aeroplan be next?

Recent news reports indicate that loyalty programmes have been a target of hackers "stealing" miles to redeem for goods and services.

This article describes techniques that would seem to be easy to apply to the Aeroplan site as well as BA and others that have been attacked.

In addition to weak controls to block brute force attacks, many of these systems do not enforce good password policies as well, making it that much easier for attackers to get into these accounts.

Not only do customers re-use passwords, but companies continue to reject CAPTCHAS, two-factor authentication, session timeouts after failed login attempts and other controls against these sort of attacks
Until Aeroplan improves their security on their website I am certainly going to improve my approach to password security there by making it longer and harder to be defeated by a brute force attack although Aeroplan makes this hard by these restrictions.

1. Make it 6 to 10 characters long 2. Use only numbers or letters in any combination (avoid special characters or accents)
There is a long thread about the BAEC situation at http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...ex-gratia.html
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Old Mar 31, 2015, 6:38 am
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Semi-off topic, but this is the first time I see someone specifically suggest avoiding special characters in passwords. They're typically encouraged because they broaden the number of possible passwords. I wonder why the suggestion was made...
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Originally Posted by Geoflying
Until Aeroplan improves their security on their website I am certainly going to improve my approach to password security there by making it longer and harder to be defeated by a brute force attack although Aeroplan makes this hard by these restrictions.
What makes you think Aeroplan hasn't been hacked or isn't p0wned to some degree already?

Most successful hacks today don't bother with the front door anymore, the backend is usually targeted and with the plethora of systems used between AC and AP - well, nothing would surprise me.......
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Old Mar 31, 2015, 6:40 am
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Originally Posted by ffsim
Semi-off topic, but that article is the first time I see someone specifically suggest avoiding special characters in passwords. They're typically encouraged because they broaden the number of possible passwords. I wonder why the suggestion was made...
Exactly - it apparently is a requirement on the Aeroplan site (that is where my second quote was from) - as well as, apparently, on other loyalty programmes' sites such as BAEC.
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Old Mar 31, 2015, 6:41 am
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Originally Posted by Geoflying
Exactly - it apparently is a requirement on the Aeroplan site (that is where my second quote was from) - as well as, apparently, on other loyalty programmes' sites such as BAEC.
Right... by not designing their websites to accept complex passwords, they're shouting "we don't care about security"
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Old Mar 31, 2015, 7:17 am
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Originally Posted by jaysona
What makes you think Aeroplan hasn't been hacked or isn't p0wned to some degree already?

Most successful hacks today don't bother with the front door anymore, the backend is usually targeted and with the plethora of systems used between AC and AP - well, nothing would surprise me.......
Well it hasn't hit the airwaves on FT yet if it is affecting users - and FT is usually the canary in the coal mine
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Old Mar 31, 2015, 7:25 am
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Originally Posted by Geoflying
Recent news reports indicate that loyalty programmes have been a target of hackers "stealing" miles to redeem for goods and services......
Until Aeroplan improves their security on their website I am certainly going to improve my approach to password security there by making it longer and harder to be defeated by a brute force attack although Aeroplan makes this hard by these restrictions.

Back on Nov 4, I posted this in a new thread.
It seems no one was concerned enough to post a reply


Originally Posted by 24left
This got me thinking about the current level of password protection on AC/AE accounts...maybe adding two-step or multi-step authentication?

From Krebs on Security re hacking of TRAVEL loyalty program accounts:

"“They got into the account and of course the first thing they did was change my primary and secondary email accounts, so that neither me nor my travel agent were getting notifications about new travel bookings,” said Brothers, co-founder of Verafin, a Canadian software security firm that focuses on anti-money laundering and fraud detection."

http://krebsonsecurity.com/2014/11/t...ints-accounts/

After Hilton got hacked, they added CAPTCHA and offered members 1,000 HHonors points for updating their passwords. Maybe it is an improvement, who really knows.

Otherwise, I'm not sure AC/Aeroplan's IT can move that quickly, otherwise they would have done so a while ago. IMHO.
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Old Mar 31, 2015, 7:33 am
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Originally Posted by 24left
Back on Nov 4, I posted this in a new thread.
It seems no one was concerned enough to post a reply

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So 24left is the canary

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They need to move to two factor authentication as much as I hate it.
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Originally Posted by Geoflying
So 24left is the canary

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Yup. Nov 4. And yet here we are.
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Old Mar 31, 2015, 9:58 am
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Originally Posted by ffsim
Right... by not designing their websites to accept complex passwords, they're shouting "we don't care about security"
Uhm, so, as much as I really don't think too highly of the general state of IT affairs at AC and AP, this is one area I'm willing to cut them a little (albeit extremely little) slack on.

I don't think it's really an issue of the website vs the issue of some back-end systems that aren't capable of processing a password that use characters other than the 7-bit ASCII character set. You'd be surprised how many systems that are still in use today that are not capable of processing username/password that are made of UTF-8 characters.

Keep in mind that the Aeroplan number and password are used to control access to many different systems within both AC and AP besides just website access.

Originally Posted by 24left
After Hilton got hacked, they added CAPTCHA and offered members 1,000 HHonors points for updating their passwords. Maybe it is an improvement, who really knows.
CAPTCHA is pretty much useless when it comes to thwarting a machine, there are massive botnets dedicated to thwarting (quite successfully) CAPTCHA. CAPTCHA provides nothing more than a warm and fuzzy feeling of a false sense of security for the naive and ignorant and is a real annoyance to the rest of us.

Originally Posted by superangrypenguin
They need to move to two factor authentication as much as I hate it.
I kinda like where 2-factor has gone with the likes of google, twitter, facebook, etc. You use a 2nd code to login once and then as long as the same pc/browser is used, no follow-up 2-factor authentication is asked for.

I routinely get notices of rogue access attempts from various places around the of my various accounts every month. I don't really think much of it, since I'll get notified if a new browser is used to login to my account, and this is something AC/AP could implement with little pain and effort compared to having to upgrade the legacy systems in the background.
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Originally Posted by jaysona

I kinda like where 2-factor has gone with the likes of google, twitter, facebook, etc. You use a 2nd code to login once and then as long as the same pc/browser is used, no follow-up 2-factor authentication is asked for.
Yep. At work we've gone from just a AD login to having to login with our AD credentials AND having a phone call sent to our mobile phones and entering a second X digit code. As big of a pain as it is, it certainly verifies that I am who I am. I'm surprised no loyalty program has implemented this yet. Then again most users are too stupid to figure out how VPN works, let alone having to remember two passwords
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Old Mar 31, 2015, 10:43 am
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I think of all websites I use (FT included), AC has my weakest password, because of the limit of 10 characters and no special characters. And yet they get more of money than any other website, maybe excluding my bank.

Originally Posted by jaysona
What makes you think Aeroplan hasn't been hacked or isn't p0wned to some degree already?

Most successful hacks today don't bother with the front door anymore, the backend is usually targeted and with the plethora of systems used between AC and AP - well, nothing would surprise me.......
I've been debating writing a little blog post about "hacking" AC for EYW. I was amazed how much of their website let me do whatever I wanted. I guess it's a good thing I didn't have any nefarious plans
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Old Mar 31, 2015, 12:02 pm
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There was an incident ~10-12 years ago, where the AP site would randomly spit out the names of other members and their account balances when someone made a points balance inquiry. AC dealt with it at the time by sending everyone affected a letter informing them of such, and 5,000 free AP points.

As for the title of this thread, I thought it had to do with how loyalty programs like AP have been constantly hacked and slashed in terms of their usefulness and rewards offered. For instance, the latest "enhancement" to AP appears to be that bookings are made in "Tango", not "Flex", and hence seat selection is no longer complimentary. The next shoe to drop? Probably stopover privileges, IMHO. Sooner or later, confirmed reservations may go the way of the dodo bird with the way that AP is going, and an AP booking will be a standby booking at best, just like employees use for personal pass travel.
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Old Mar 31, 2015, 12:21 pm
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Originally Posted by jaysona
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Keep in mind that the Aeroplan number and password are used to control access to many different systems within both AC and AP besides just website access.

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...and in some cases you don't even need that. If I know your booking reference number and your last name (say, by hunting through the garbage bins in the office after you have left for the night, looking for the printout of your flight confirmation before you moved yourself into a preferred set) I can go and move you out of 18A into 60E thereby opening up 18A for me (OK I know you never fly economy jaysona but you get the general idea)
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