Two op-ups this weekend - the new normal?
Mar 30, 2015, 7:50 am
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Two op-ups this weekend - the new normal?
Whoever posted here about eUpgrade credit requirements increasing leading to more op-ups is a genius.
Was flying short-haul between Toronto and a NE US city this weekend (out Fri PM and back in Sun PM.) Y was oversold on both, pre-flight I was called up to podium and op-up-ed. Total eUpgrade credit spend = 0.
Good too because I didn't choose the 50 credits in Option 1 (took the 100% mile bonus and 20 eUps in Option 2.)
I think the theory that was kicked around here was that the new higher credit counts will lead to less people will be able/willing to use their credits... which means more people staying in Y, which means more Y cabins oversold = op-up SEs and Es.
Definitely happened for me this weekend!
l.
Was flying short-haul between Toronto and a NE US city this weekend (out Fri PM and back in Sun PM.) Y was oversold on both, pre-flight I was called up to podium and op-up-ed. Total eUpgrade credit spend = 0.
Good too because I didn't choose the 50 credits in Option 1 (took the 100% mile bonus and 20 eUps in Option 2.)
I think the theory that was kicked around here was that the new higher credit counts will lead to less people will be able/willing to use their credits... which means more people staying in Y, which means more Y cabins oversold = op-up SEs and Es.
Definitely happened for me this weekend!
l.
Mar 30, 2015, 9:30 am
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The co-hort prediction was that it would result in loss of revenue as less pax would be purchasing upgradeable fares in the hopes of playing the eUP lottery. That will take a bit more time to sort out.
Mar 30, 2015, 12:17 pm
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Me too. Op-up for three on DCA-YYZ and for one YYZ-YYC. w/b on the first and oversell on the second. Looking at my upcoming flights I wouldn't be surprised to be op-up'ed tomorrow for oversell and the way back for w/b.
Certainly this does seem abnormal considering I can count on one hand the number of times I've been op-up'ed in the previous years as SE.
Certainly this does seem abnormal considering I can count on one hand the number of times I've been op-up'ed in the previous years as SE.
Mar 30, 2015, 12:20 pm
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Me too. Op-up for three on DCA-YYZ and for one YYZ-YYC. w/b on the first and oversell on the second. Looking at my upcoming flights I wouldn't be surprised to be op-up'ed tomorrow for oversell and the way back for w/b.
Certainly this does seem abnormal considering I can count on one hand the number of times I've been op-up'ed in the previous years as SE.
Certainly this does seem abnormal considering I can count on one hand the number of times I've been op-up'ed in the previous years as SE.
Mar 30, 2015, 1:09 pm
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Its the inevitable end.
I don't want to pay for J, I'll use my eUps.
eUps prices went up, I'm not going to use them i'll buy Y and hope to get Oped-up.
Genius now, but when the routes get rouged, or AC continues to reduce the size of J cabins, I don't the cries we'll be hearing on this board will use the term 'Genius'.
I'm not sure if this should be filed under 'There is no such this as a free lunch' or 'The law of unintended consequences", or both.
But hearing people saying they enjoy this, I hope they're not surprised or disappointed about less J and more Rouge routes....
I don't want to pay for J, I'll use my eUps.
eUps prices went up, I'm not going to use them i'll buy Y and hope to get Oped-up.
Genius now, but when the routes get rouged, or AC continues to reduce the size of J cabins, I don't the cries we'll be hearing on this board will use the term 'Genius'.
I'm not sure if this should be filed under 'There is no such this as a free lunch' or 'The law of unintended consequences", or both.
But hearing people saying they enjoy this, I hope they're not surprised or disappointed about less J and more Rouge routes....
Mar 30, 2015, 1:15 pm
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Its the inevitable end.
I don't want to pay for J, I'll use my eUps.
eUps prices went up, I'm not going to use them i'll buy Y and hope to get Oped-up.
Genius now, but when the routes get rouged, or AC continues to reduce the size of J cabins, I don't the cries we'll be hearing on this board will use the term 'Genius'.
I'm not sure if this should be filed under 'There is no such this as a free lunch' or 'The law of unintended consequences", or both.
But hearing people saying they enjoy this, I hope they're not surprised or disappointed about less J and more Rouge routes....
I don't want to pay for J, I'll use my eUps.
eUps prices went up, I'm not going to use them i'll buy Y and hope to get Oped-up.
Genius now, but when the routes get rouged, or AC continues to reduce the size of J cabins, I don't the cries we'll be hearing on this board will use the term 'Genius'.
I'm not sure if this should be filed under 'There is no such this as a free lunch' or 'The law of unintended consequences", or both.
But hearing people saying they enjoy this, I hope they're not surprised or disappointed about less J and more Rouge routes....
Mar 30, 2015, 1:22 pm
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To me it's the unintended consequence of trying to (they say) operate a CX-style, expensive-and-worth it J product, when almost every other carrier in North America is doing a barely-more-expensive-and-decent J product.
I suspect you're right, they'll take any drop-off in domestic J sales as somehow demonstrating there's no demand for J, and use that to start Rouging more routes.
I suspect you're right, they'll take any drop-off in domestic J sales as somehow demonstrating there's no demand for J, and use that to start Rouging more routes.
Mar 30, 2015, 1:27 pm
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Mar 30, 2015, 1:30 pm
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