Meal Orders in J
Jan 24, 2015, 11:30 am
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Its a (paid) service AC offers. Usually for celebs, or people who don't want to be bothered. They get special check in procedures. They will also board the plane before anyone, or at the very last minute, escorted by staff. Apparently there is a black folder with info on the passenger (preferences and need to know stuff).
They seem to annoy many of the FFers who feel that they deserve this service based on their own loyalty and travel habits.
They seem to annoy many of the FFers who feel that they deserve this service based on their own loyalty and travel habits.
AC VIP is a frequent flier program above SE designed for customers/decision makers that are commercially important to AC but do not make Altitude status the traditional way. As others have mentioned before, its a hybrid revenue/nepotism/loyalty program that allows AC to bestow status on individuals without contaminating the existing published Altitude channels (and thus keeping resentment/awareness to a minimum).
Jan 24, 2015, 11:55 am
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This is not correct at all. You should really research these things prior to posting info.
AC VIP is a frequent flier program above SE designed for customers/decision makers that are commercially important to AC but do not make Altitude status the traditional way. As others have mentioned before, its a hybrid revenue/nepotism/loyalty program that allows AC to bestow status on individuals without contaminating the existing published Altitude channels (and thus keeping resentment/awareness to a minimum).
AC VIP is a frequent flier program above SE designed for customers/decision makers that are commercially important to AC but do not make Altitude status the traditional way. As others have mentioned before, its a hybrid revenue/nepotism/loyalty program that allows AC to bestow status on individuals without contaminating the existing published Altitude channels (and thus keeping resentment/awareness to a minimum).
Jan 24, 2015, 11:56 am
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When I have experienced priority meal taking, they do separate the 75s from the 25s. Aka they have gone se, e75, e50 etc. I know its not sop but just one data point
Jan 24, 2015, 11:59 am
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I read that before posting, among others. Apologies if my interpretation of the program differs from yours. To my knowledge, it is possible to gain these 'services/perks' for a price, with an Asterix. One does not need to be high revenue, loyal, or a relative of someone to get the treatment, however, there is an added cost. From second hand experience (although not on AC) one can receive the perks for a single trip, should one require it, and, as the article states, it is at the discretion of the airline to accommodate said request. It is also offered to those who make decisions for large corporations and other key customers.
Jan 24, 2015, 12:07 pm
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I think it was a nice gesture from the FAs (and certainly appreciated it), but as you said, I don't think it's SOP.
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Jan 24, 2015, 12:12 pm
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The person in question could have been exaggerating, the conversation didn't sound like a pee-ing contest to me.
Jan 24, 2015, 12:14 pm
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If you're making the change after the flight closes (which I assume is the situation if you're doing it at the gate), then they won't confirm you on the flight (or at least, they never will for me), and you'll go on standby. Now, they may be able to process that standby right there, so you don't realize it's happening, but in that situation, I expect you to get ML*2.
If you're making the change 2 hours in advance and you get a boarding pass at that time, that's different.
Were you in JCDZPI, or were you upgraded, before making the change? I could also see that leading to ML*1, since they had to book you into your original class, and then re-confirm the upgrade (at the gate).
If you're making the change 2 hours in advance and you get a boarding pass at that time, that's different.
Were you in JCDZPI, or were you upgraded, before making the change? I could also see that leading to ML*1, since they had to book you into your original class, and then re-confirm the upgrade (at the gate).
Going back OT though, even though I get the ML*1 or *2 I typically get asked first anyway. I suspect the FA/SD does a mental calculation based on experience... not everyone eats anyway.
Jan 24, 2015, 12:15 pm
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I've also experienced the procedure where they just went front to back and didn't go by status when I was SE.
Jan 24, 2015, 12:52 pm
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These are usually after the flights close, and I'm on a Lat pass comp u/g so it's J. Not sure if it's ML*1 or ML*2 but it's one of those. I put myself on a sby list through OLCI (and btw even though it always says there are no J seats avail, I see there are and I get a J seat when I get to the gate). Agreed these ML notations don't appear when the change is made online or confirmed before it goes to gate control (usually anytime up to an hour before the flight in my experience).
Going back OT though, even though I get the ML*1 or *2 I typically get asked first anyway. I suspect the FA/SD does a mental calculation based on experience... not everyone eats anyway.
Going back OT though, even though I get the ML*1 or *2 I typically get asked first anyway. I suspect the FA/SD does a mental calculation based on experience... not everyone eats anyway.
The only time that's supposed to matter though is if there are not enough meals. If there are enough meals, you're still supposed to get priority for your choice.
Jan 24, 2015, 2:06 pm
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Just to make this more complicated....
Was on the redeye. Across from me was another SEMM. I was asked first for the meal order and he was asked next. Now let the speculations begin:
a. Was It because I was older than him?
b. Was it because of alphabetical order?
c. Maybe because The total in my MM account???
Was on the redeye. Across from me was another SEMM. I was asked first for the meal order and he was asked next. Now let the speculations begin:
a. Was It because I was older than him?
b. Was it because of alphabetical order?
c. Maybe because The total in my MM account???
Jan 24, 2015, 2:24 pm
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Just to make this more complicated....
Was on the redeye. Across from me was another SEMM. I was asked first for the meal order and he was asked next. Now let the speculations begin:
a. Was It because I was older than him?
b. Was it because of alphabetical order?
c. Maybe because The total in my MM account???
Was on the redeye. Across from me was another SEMM. I was asked first for the meal order and he was asked next. Now let the speculations begin:
a. Was It because I was older than him?
b. Was it because of alphabetical order?
c. Maybe because The total in my MM account???
1. VIP
2. SE and MM
3. Everyone else
All front to back, within each group.
SEMM has the same priority as SE and the same as E50KMM.
Jan 24, 2015, 2:57 pm
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Just to make this more complicated....
Was on the redeye. Across from me was another SEMM. I was asked first for the meal order and he was asked next. Now let the speculations begin:
a. Was It because I was older than him?
b. Was it because of alphabetical order?
c. Maybe because The total in my MM account???
Was on the redeye. Across from me was another SEMM. I was asked first for the meal order and he was asked next. Now let the speculations begin:
a. Was It because I was older than him?
b. Was it because of alphabetical order?
c. Maybe because The total in my MM account???
Jan 24, 2015, 3:34 pm
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Just to make this more complicated....
Was on the redeye. Across from me was another SEMM. I was asked first for the meal order and he was asked next. Now let the speculations begin:
a. Was It because I was older than him?
b. Was it because of alphabetical order?
c. Maybe because The total in my MM account???
Was on the redeye. Across from me was another SEMM. I was asked first for the meal order and he was asked next. Now let the speculations begin:
a. Was It because I was older than him?
b. Was it because of alphabetical order?
c. Maybe because The total in my MM account???
According to the vast majority of contributions here in this ever-recurring post, the protocol is followed. We don't know what you have paid, we don't know how many miles you have, nor how long you've been an Aeroplan Member. In fact basic manifest/name information is only available within 24 hours of the flight and only to the operating Service Director. Privacy concerns and issues you know. We just muddle along and try to equitably make it work out.