787 is now my favourite plane!
Nov 24, 2014, 8:55 pm
#61
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Just a note after a recent flight (my first) on AC 787. Plane is indeed very nice overall, and bus class seat is a huge improvement on classic pods, where I always seemed to find hard lumpy bits underneath me as I tried to sleep. Seat is much more of a continuous surface which is much more comfortable.
Two annoying design flaws, however. I was at very front, with 3 windows to myself, which was very nice. Problem is that there is basically no overhead storage for the first row. Makes no sense at all - first bin is small and for crew gear, and second bin is for second row. Second issue is that the washrooms are very, VERY small. I like to change into pj's on long flights and these 787 washrooms are about the size of CRJ narrowbody commuter jet washrooms. Not what I expected on the 787. 777 washrooms by contrast are much more spacious. Other than that, I like the windows, where the dark setting really makes it feel like flying at night - no more of the bright sun from the loose-fitting shades on the older windows.
Two annoying design flaws, however. I was at very front, with 3 windows to myself, which was very nice. Problem is that there is basically no overhead storage for the first row. Makes no sense at all - first bin is small and for crew gear, and second bin is for second row. Second issue is that the washrooms are very, VERY small. I like to change into pj's on long flights and these 787 washrooms are about the size of CRJ narrowbody commuter jet washrooms. Not what I expected on the 787. 777 washrooms by contrast are much more spacious. Other than that, I like the windows, where the dark setting really makes it feel like flying at night - no more of the bright sun from the loose-fitting shades on the older windows.
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Nov 24, 2014, 8:57 pm
#62
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Just a note after a recent flight (my first) on AC 787. Plane is indeed very nice overall, and bus class seat is a huge improvement on classic pods, where I always seemed to have hard lumpy bits underneath me as I tried to sleep.
Two annoying design flaws, however. I was at very front, with 3 windows to myself, which was very nice. Problem is that there is basically no overhead storage for the first row. Makes no sens at all - first bin is small and for crew gear, and second bin is for second row. Second issue is that the washrooms are very, VERY small. I like to change into pj's on long flights and these 787 washrooms are about the size of CR700 narrowbody commuter jet washrooms. Not what I expected on the 787. 777 washrooms by contrast are much more spacious. Other than that, I like the windows, where the dark setting really makes it feel like flying at night - no more of the bright sun from the loose-fitting shades on the older windows.
Two annoying design flaws, however. I was at very front, with 3 windows to myself, which was very nice. Problem is that there is basically no overhead storage for the first row. Makes no sens at all - first bin is small and for crew gear, and second bin is for second row. Second issue is that the washrooms are very, VERY small. I like to change into pj's on long flights and these 787 washrooms are about the size of CR700 narrowbody commuter jet washrooms. Not what I expected on the 787. 777 washrooms by contrast are much more spacious. Other than that, I like the windows, where the dark setting really makes it feel like flying at night - no more of the bright sun from the loose-fitting shades on the older windows.
Nov 24, 2014, 9:25 pm
#63
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Just a note after a recent flight (my first) on AC 787. Plane is indeed very nice overall, and bus class seat is a huge improvement on classic pods, where I always seemed to find hard lumpy bits underneath me as I tried to sleep. Seat is much more of a continuous surface which is much more comfortable.
Two annoying design flaws, however. I was at very front, with 3 windows to myself, which was very nice. Problem is that there is basically no overhead storage for the first row. Makes no sense at all - first bin is small and for crew gear, and second bin is for second row. Second issue is that the washrooms are very, VERY small. I like to change into pj's on long flights and these 787 washrooms are about the size of CRJ narrowbody commuter jet washrooms. Not what I expected on the 787. 777 washrooms by contrast are much more spacious. Other than that, I like the windows, where the dark setting really makes it feel like flying at night - no more of the bright sun from the loose-fitting shades on the older windows.
Two annoying design flaws, however. I was at very front, with 3 windows to myself, which was very nice. Problem is that there is basically no overhead storage for the first row. Makes no sense at all - first bin is small and for crew gear, and second bin is for second row. Second issue is that the washrooms are very, VERY small. I like to change into pj's on long flights and these 787 washrooms are about the size of CRJ narrowbody commuter jet washrooms. Not what I expected on the 787. 777 washrooms by contrast are much more spacious. Other than that, I like the windows, where the dark setting really makes it feel like flying at night - no more of the bright sun from the loose-fitting shades on the older windows.
Nov 24, 2014, 11:16 pm
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Nov 25, 2014, 7:45 am
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Good to know. I always found the classic pods to be lumpy to lie on with all the deep seams as well. Why couldn't they just leave the middle bins. I wonder if its a structural or weight thing or just for aesthetics. Do non AC 787's J Class's have centre storage? Still waiting for someone to comment whether or not the screen in J tilts or if its fixed. Fixed sucks for lying down.
Nov 25, 2014, 7:57 am
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I actually prefer it! It really opens up the cabin a lot!
Also, AC doesn't need the bins, so they may as well do without them. If everyone in J brought on a rollaboard that's still only 5 bins, plus let's say 2 more bins for other smaller items, makes the middle ones unnecessary unless everyone in J is bringing on more than they are allowed.
Nov 25, 2014, 8:22 am
#67
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same here. when I first flew on the dreamliner back in 2012 I think my expectations were a bit too high... neither the reduced noise or cabin pressure changes made much of a difference to the flight experience...especially the jet lag. the windows were a nice change though.
Nov 25, 2014, 10:57 am
#68
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same here. when I first flew on the dreamliner back in 2012 I think my expectations were a bit too high... neither the reduced noise or cabin pressure changes made much of a difference to the flight experience...especially the jet lag. the windows were a nice change though.
Nov 25, 2014, 3:09 pm
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Nov 26, 2014, 12:01 am
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safety video
Having just flown ANZ in PE and loved the entire ANZ experience, I think the OP should be challenged to create a safety video to beat this....
http://www.airnewzealand.ca/hobbit-2014
http://www.airnewzealand.ca/hobbit-2014
Nov 26, 2014, 1:15 am
#71
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Flew AC0103 from YYZ to YVR on October 30, Seat 1D. New pods are basically what CX and BR have been using on their 777s for a while now, with the addition of a bigger LCD screen and touchscreens to control everything.
Biggest flaw - the centre seats do not have overhead storage in J. Which means VERY cramped storage for carry-on baggage. Have no idea if this is also the case in PY / Y, but unacceptable in J.
Reduced noise is great, but makes those galley conversations more clearly audible, which is not necessarily a good thing when you want to sleep...
Biggest flaw - the centre seats do not have overhead storage in J. Which means VERY cramped storage for carry-on baggage. Have no idea if this is also the case in PY / Y, but unacceptable in J.
Reduced noise is great, but makes those galley conversations more clearly audible, which is not necessarily a good thing when you want to sleep...
Nov 26, 2014, 1:23 am
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The thing I love the most about the 788 suites is the table. For me, it is very ergonomic compared to the classic reverse herringbone tables. I am actually very productive work-wise on the 788. Love how the pneumatic seat/mattress "flows" smoothly when adjusting the controls. One of the very few redeeming qualities of the AC hard product.
Now they just need to fix the soft product... but that's an entirely different thread in itself...
Now they just need to fix the soft product... but that's an entirely different thread in itself...
Nov 26, 2014, 5:20 am
#73
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Good to know. I always found the classic pods to be lumpy to lie on with all the deep seams as well. Why couldn't they just leave the middle bins. I wonder if its a structural or weight thing or just for aesthetics. Do non AC 787's J Class's have centre storage? Still waiting for someone to comment whether or not the screen in J tilts or if its fixed. Fixed sucks for lying down.
Nov 26, 2014, 6:45 am
#74
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MrsCA and I have an upcoming flight to LHR in J on 787. Normally we would take the middle seats in J and lower the divider between us. On the 787 is it hard to carry on a conversation and pass magazines etc.between the middle seats since apparently the divider can't be lowered? Should we consider instead G,K seats facing each other like the 763?
Nov 26, 2014, 10:54 am
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MrsCA and I have an upcoming flight to LHR in J on 787. Normally we would take the middle seats in J and lower the divider between us. On the 787 is it hard to carry on a conversation and pass magazines etc.between the middle seats since apparently the divider can't be lowered? Should we consider instead G,K seats facing each other like the 763?
