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Old Nov 1, 2014, 3:04 pm
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Ah, then you would have really enjoy the combo mosh pit-gate lice event at YVR Monday for AC34 to YYZ.
or any rapidair flight
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Old Nov 1, 2014, 3:05 pm
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Originally Posted by lcohen999
or any rapidair flight

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Old Nov 1, 2014, 3:37 pm
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If I were to take a guess:
1. J, SE, E75
2. E50, E35, *G, PY, Latitude
3 - 5/6/7 Y based on seat numbers
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Old Nov 1, 2014, 3:45 pm
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Originally Posted by agjil
If I were to take a guess:
1. J, SE, E75
2. E50, E35, *G, PY, Latitude
3 - 5/6/7 Y based on seat numbers
Sounds about right, except 7 zones is a bit much.

J should absolutely be in the first boarding group. For those SEs who think otherwise, consider that you won't always be SE.

P25K should not be in zone 2. It's already crowded enough as is. Hopefully credit card holders get zone 3, and not zone 2.
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Old Nov 1, 2014, 3:55 pm
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If one were to follow *A rules doesn't *G need to board with J?
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Old Nov 1, 2014, 4:08 pm
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Originally Posted by yvr76
J should absolutely be in the first boarding group. For those SEs who think otherwise, consider that you won't always be SE.
I don't care that I'm on first. I care that I have bin space. And since I almost exclusively fly in J, the only way to guarantee that is to let me board before the rest of J .

People seem to complain about bin space in Y, and why priority boarding often alleviates that issue. But I always have bin space issues in J. The number of times my single backpack has not been able to fit in the J bins is unreal. I'm not maxing out my "legal" carry-on allowance and complaining both bags won't fit.

Now, if they can somehow guarantee that a SE in J will have enough bin space for a single roller or something like that, then I don't care if I'm group 1 or 99. But until then, I'd like priority boarding to actually be useful. Maybe the carry-on enforcements will help, but I have not heard of it helping yet.

Originally Posted by CdnFlier
If one were to follow *A rules doesn't *G need to board with J?
I've been having second thoughts about this lately. The rules says "There's no need to rush out of the lounge anymore. With priority boarding you can enjoy the freedom of boarding at your convenience along with First and Business Class passengers."

You can read that as "You get to board with F and J." or "F and J can board at their convenience. So can you.". And if you're in zone 2, boarding any time in 2-5 is "convenient", right?

UA certainly doesn't let *G board with J
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Old Nov 1, 2014, 4:13 pm
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
UA certainly doesn't let *G board with J
Do you still have bin space when you board as *G with UA? Y or J?
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Old Nov 1, 2014, 4:28 pm
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Originally Posted by superangrypenguin
Do you still have bin space when you board as *G with UA? Y or J?
I usually have plenty of bin space when I fly on UA Y and get assigned to boarding group 2.
Boarding group 2 is fine IMHO.
If you hold a UA J ticket, you belong to boarding group 1, so bin space is not a problem obviously.
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Old Nov 1, 2014, 4:33 pm
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
I don't care that I'm on first. I care that I have bin space. And since I almost exclusively fly in J, the only way to guarantee that is to let me board before the rest of J.
Either way, we'll be in group one. After that, position is all about how you use your elbows.

However, I'd love it if I could count on bin space with a tight connection, or after lingering in the lounge.
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Old Nov 1, 2014, 4:35 pm
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Originally Posted by superangrypenguin
Do you still have bin space when you board as *G with UA? Y or J?
Y is not a problem if you have priority boarding, because enough of Y is not priority.

I've flown UA J very seldom, but I don't recall a problem. The problem is when you get there at T-35, and there's already a huge line in the priority boarding. If all of J boards before you, space is a problem.

Originally Posted by agjil
I usually have plenty of bin space when I fly on UA Y and get assigned to boarding group 2.
Boarding group 2 is fine IMHO.
If you hold a UA J ticket, you belong to boarding group 1, so bin space is not a problem obviously.
Not so obvious. If you're last in group 1, good luck finding space
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Old Nov 1, 2014, 5:03 pm
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Not so obvious. If you're last in group 1, good luck finding space
Well, I was implying at least be in the middle of the whole line for group 1, and you should be fine.
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Old Nov 1, 2014, 5:10 pm
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Originally Posted by agjil
I usually have plenty of bin space when I fly on UA Y and get assigned to boarding group 2.
Boarding group 2 is fine IMHO.
If you hold a UA J ticket, you belong to boarding group 1, so bin space is not a problem obviously.
As an SE you should be zone 1on UA I believe. I can't remember not being zone 1 with them since hitting SE.
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Old Nov 1, 2014, 5:19 pm
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As an SE you should be zone 1on UA I believe. I can't remember not being zone 1 with them since hitting SE.
Being SE has nothing to do with being in group 1 on UA.
What matters is you are Star Alliance Gold, and hence belong to group 2.
If you are sitting in J, then you are in group 1 regardless of status.
I'm not sure whether you belong to group 1 or 2 when you are sitting in E+ though...it could be the case you were sitting in E+ and therefore had boarding group 1 on your BP.
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Old Nov 1, 2014, 6:31 pm
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Originally Posted by aircanada_loyal
Why should *G and E75/50 board together? With A3, anyone can get *G with 17K status miles, but you need a minimum of 25K and 35K status miles with AC to get *S, and you need 50K with AC to get *G (there is a huge discrepancy).

I would suggest the following:
1. J
2. All Altitude Super Elite and Elite members (SE, E75, E50, E35, E25)
4. Star Alliance Gold members
5. Star Alliance Silver members
6. General boarding
Conversely, with LH, you don't get *G until 100k, so why should measly AC E50k/75k get to priority board on LH? Also, A3 is tightening their requirements substantially... and it was never 17k miles. It was 19k minimum.
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Old Nov 1, 2014, 6:38 pm
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Originally Posted by agjil
Being SE has nothing to do with being in group 1 on UA.
What matters is you are Star Alliance Gold, and hence belong to group 2.
If you are sitting in J, then you are in group 1 regardless of status.
I'm not sure whether you belong to group 1 or 2 when you are sitting in E+ though...it could be the case you were sitting in E+ and therefore had boarding group 1 on your BP.
E+ does not put you in 1 or 2. When it was 7 groups, it got you group 4 or 5.

Now, for someone with AC status, *G/*S gets you into 2, J gets you into 1.
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