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Old Oct 19, 2014, 8:48 pm
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Looking to purchase PE seat (O class) YVR/LHR for January and find the price has increased by approx $1,000 each way since July 2914. Anyone else notice fare increase of this magnitude ?
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Old Oct 19, 2014, 8:51 pm
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How did you see a fare that's 900 years in the future???
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Old Oct 19, 2014, 8:54 pm
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O class is now fully flexible PE (since Feb 2014). Maybe E/N fares (the discount PE fares) are sold out for the dates you're looking at?
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Old Oct 19, 2014, 9:01 pm
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Originally Posted by gabdusch
O class is now fully flexible PE (since Feb 2014). Maybe E/N fares (the discount PE fares) are sold out for the dates you're looking at?
I just looked at sample dates Jan 20 - 23

PE N (lowest) $1754

PE O (flexible) $4854

gabdusch is right, look closely at the fare you clicked on as PE lowest may be sold out for your dates
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Old Oct 19, 2014, 9:24 pm
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Originally Posted by 24left
I just looked at sample dates Jan 20 - 23

PE N (lowest) $1754

PE O (flexible) $4854

gabdusch is right, look closely at the fare you clicked on as PE lowest may be sold out for your dates


I just checked Jan 20 / Jan 23 for O (flexible) class and find $2,680 to LHR and $2,972 for the return to YVR. That is total $$5,652. Fare paid for 30 May / 2 June 2014 was $3,829 (also for 0 class).
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Old Oct 19, 2014, 9:27 pm
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Astonishing pricing. BA has non stop fares in First (A - lots of seats) YYZ LHR for $5498 before taxes thus for $600 more plus what tend to be higher fuel surcharges it is hard to imagine paying AC $4,854 for glorified coach for the same route. BA Business in I is $1000 less than that AC price.
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Old Oct 19, 2014, 10:14 pm
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Originally Posted by AC854
I just checked Jan 20 / Jan 23 for O (flexible) class and find $2,680 to LHR and $2,972 for the return to YVR. That is total $$5,652. Fare paid for 30 May / 2 June 2014 was $3,829 (also for 0 class).

ooops, my ac.com had YYZ as origin not YVR
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Old Oct 19, 2014, 10:16 pm
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Originally Posted by ricktoronto
Astonishing pricing. BA has non stop fares in First (A - lots of seats) YYZ LHR for $5498 before taxes thus for $600 more plus what tend to be higher fuel surcharges it is hard to imagine paying AC $4,854 for glorified coach for the same route. BA Business in I is $1000 less than that AC price.
Are you saying BA Biz is less than AC Prem Economy?

I just looked at BA YYZ-LHR Jan 20-23 in First Lowest is $8781

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Old Oct 20, 2014, 12:03 am
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Originally Posted by AC854
Looking to purchase PE seat (O class) YVR/LHR for January and find the price has increased by approx $1,000 each way since July 2914. Anyone else notice fare increase of this magnitude ?
Originally Posted by DreamHigh
How did you see a fare that's 900 years in the future???
If AC854 indeed was so clairvoyant into the future, that's a really great deal, if the inflation on PE 900 years later is a mere $1000
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Old Oct 20, 2014, 6:33 am
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Originally Posted by AC854
Looking to purchase PE seat (O class) YVR/LHR for January and find the price has increased by approx $1,000 each way since July 2914. Anyone else notice fare increase of this magnitude ?
Looks true - - Fare "OFFE" has just gone up about 1000. Looks like my travels will have to change as this was my go-to fare. Now with O-Class too expensive, E-Up surcharge on the other fares etc . . I'm done. This is crazy. Best to hope for now is just a P-Class discount if lucky.
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Old Oct 20, 2014, 6:51 am
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PE to HKG still normal, so isolated if it isn't a fare bucket thing.
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Old Oct 20, 2014, 8:11 am
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Its only a matter of time for Airlines start increasing the price of the PE.
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Old Oct 20, 2014, 11:17 am
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The O fare change makes sense, as it was less than a Y fare and they are both fully flexible. So the higher COS should be higher.
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Old Oct 20, 2014, 11:29 am
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Originally Posted by ricktoronto
Astonishing pricing. BA has non stop fares in First (A - lots of seats) YYZ LHR for $5498 before taxes thus for $600 more plus what tend to be higher fuel surcharges it is hard to imagine paying AC $4,854 for glorified coach for the same route. BA Business in I is $1000 less than that AC price.
All carriers collude on TATL pricing - not surprising BA and AC biz on non-stop YVR-LHR prices for those dates are identical at C$6613\

You can fly Delta J for less than AC glorified Y though if it indeed is $4854
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Old Oct 20, 2014, 12:09 pm
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Don't think you're comparing apples to apples here. If you're buying an O fare, you are paying business class lowest prices, and getting total flexibility combined with an immediate upgrade to business. Pricing Y,B and O much lower than P devalues business fares entirely and more importantly loses AC revenue. What are they supposed to do, sell you business class for $2000 less because you are elite?


Comparing it to BA is odd, because dummy booking suggests you still need to pay £200 change fees and £200 cancellation on those 1st class fares. Buying O suggests you need flexibility, otherwise why not just buy E/N fares in the first place and save yourself a 2/3 of the ticket price.

As for glorified Y, well having travelled on HD plane it is more than that. The service is hit and miss. But it's probably worth $100-200 per way. Glorified Y would be Y with an exit row. Which in tango can be had for $850 return plus whatever your status costs for preferred seats are.
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