AC in "crack down" on carry-on bags
Oct 1, 2014, 4:09 pm
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The limits wrt weight are b.s. and have been dropped by the competition.
The sizers do not accurately reflect the dimension limits.
The crew bags do not conform to the limits.
Fix these three things and those of us who are so very entitled will be just fine.
Further, assuming someone who is pissed off is obviously a whiner who didn't buy a tea is extraordinarily presumptuous.
The sizers do not accurately reflect the dimension limits.
The crew bags do not conform to the limits.
Fix these three things and those of us who are so very entitled will be just fine.
Further, assuming someone who is pissed off is obviously a whiner who didn't buy a tea is extraordinarily presumptuous.
Oct 1, 2014, 4:23 pm
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overhead bin latch mechanisms were designed to contain a certain about of weight. In the case of turbulence, a heavy bag (with the g forces exerted by the sudden mouvement of the airplane) could exceed the tolerances of the latch mechanisms. F=MxA M being mass is the only factor that can easily controlled.
Oct 1, 2014, 4:27 pm
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Point #2 Aren't the sizers the limit. Different bags fit in different overhead bins. The limits cannot be equipment related, since those change, so the sizer becomes the only standard.
Point #3, I agree, however, I'm not gong to tell them, I like getting good service. Also, many aspects of their job stinks as it is, I'm willing to give them that as a perk for carry-on.
Oct 1, 2014, 4:35 pm
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Really? Where do you see bags being weighed at major US airports?
It's been pointed out elsewhere that the way the bars are built, it prevents legally sized bags from fitting.
It's been pointed out elsewhere that the way the bars are built, it prevents legally sized bags from fitting.
Oct 1, 2014, 4:36 pm
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How about flight staff that fly say from YVR to YYC ? Most likely non revenue as well on standby and get seats in business class come on board with 3 pieces [or more ] luggage and take up overhead bin space. Do these bags fit in the sizers? Some but not all. This as well should be regulated.
Word ^
Oct 1, 2014, 4:47 pm
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My point was the sizers ARE the legal size limit now...
On a side note...I also always find it funny in here that people want the service level of SQ and ANA, the cleanliness and efficiency of LH, the points of service of Emirates, and the limited perks of the US carriers all in one, but not the confinements of each. To all who cherry pick benefits from one airline an another individually against AC's policies... Please pick your poison.
Oct 1, 2014, 4:51 pm
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The weighing is just preposterous, even if OS or LH do it. For the type of bags we're all talking about here, which are not the kitchen sink, it's completely unnecessary.
Oct 1, 2014, 5:26 pm
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The world (and AC competitors) is bigger than the US. The US, in aviation travel terms is third world. NH, NZ and LX have all weighed mine (laptop bag...I don't do carry on).
On a side note...I also always find it funny in here that people want the service level of SQ and ANA, the cleanliness and efficiency of LH, the points of service of Emirates, and the limited perks of the US carriers all in one, but not the confinements of each. To all who cherry pick benefits from one airline an another individually against AC's policies... Please pick your poison.
On a side note...I also always find it funny in here that people want the service level of SQ and ANA, the cleanliness and efficiency of LH, the points of service of Emirates, and the limited perks of the US carriers all in one, but not the confinements of each. To all who cherry pick benefits from one airline an another individually against AC's policies... Please pick your poison.
AC has chosen to go the US way of charging fees without cutting fares for those who travel with carry-on only. They've picked the poison for all of us.
Now when AC start charging US fares or offering high levels of service, people will probably stop complaining, but as value-for-money goes right now, you would be hard pressed to argue the US or EU is anywhere as close to third-world levels in aviation terms as Canada is.
Oct 1, 2014, 5:38 pm
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Agreed. If AC wants to "align itself" with Westjet, I hope AC aligns itself with weight policies of its N. American counterparts. This weight thing is royally annoying me.
Oct 1, 2014, 5:43 pm
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That may be a solution, but it is not an acceptable solution. Carrying 10 kgs is not acceptable for health and medical reasons for lots of people with bad backs, shoulder injuries, neck injuries, etc. Why do you think so many bags have wheels these days? Even ones that would have been called a briefcase 20 years ago? Luggage needs wheels.
I don't get why people are so self-righteous about this issue (not pointing any fingers at the above poster btw). As long as your bag fits into the overhead, meets the published dimensions (which may be different than the sizers at the airport) and is of a weight that you can lift yourself into the overhead, and you don't have too many of them, then who cares?
Nobody has a problem with complying with reasonable policies. This one isn't reasonable because: a) it is out of line with all major competitors with respect to weight; b) doesn't meet any reasonable fairness test. And by fairness I mean that if an airline, any airline, insists that I check my bag, I think it is fair that they deliver it promptly, not 30+ minutes after landing (and that is not just a problem at YYZ, try YYC US arrivals), and that they take full responsibility for the contents if damaged or lost as long as they are properly packed.
AC fails to be reasonable in both categories.
I don't get why people are so self-righteous about this issue (not pointing any fingers at the above poster btw). As long as your bag fits into the overhead, meets the published dimensions (which may be different than the sizers at the airport) and is of a weight that you can lift yourself into the overhead, and you don't have too many of them, then who cares?
Nobody has a problem with complying with reasonable policies. This one isn't reasonable because: a) it is out of line with all major competitors with respect to weight; b) doesn't meet any reasonable fairness test. And by fairness I mean that if an airline, any airline, insists that I check my bag, I think it is fair that they deliver it promptly, not 30+ minutes after landing (and that is not just a problem at YYZ, try YYC US arrivals), and that they take full responsibility for the contents if damaged or lost as long as they are properly packed.
AC fails to be reasonable in both categories.
Oct 1, 2014, 5:49 pm
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What's with the sudden lack of reading skills? Since when does suggesting a change to the current limits imply ignoring said limits?
Let me spell it out: the current limit of 10kg is too low. Most other North American airlines, especially those to which AC likes to compare itself, have eliminated carry-on limits.
Furthermore, if a bag fits in AC's sizers and can be lifted into the bin by the passenger, there should be no reason for the gate agent to tag it and send it below.
Sadly, you wouldn't get to laugh out loud while I quietly board ahead of you and place my bag in the overhead bin with speed and ease.
Let me spell it out: the current limit of 10kg is too low. Most other North American airlines, especially those to which AC likes to compare itself, have eliminated carry-on limits.
Furthermore, if a bag fits in AC's sizers and can be lifted into the bin by the passenger, there should be no reason for the gate agent to tag it and send it below.
Sadly, you wouldn't get to laugh out loud while I quietly board ahead of you and place my bag in the overhead bin with speed and ease.
They pay no attention to the limits even though they know what they are. When the cruisers show up at the side of the road and the tickets start being handed out they argue and angrily demand the speed limits be raised while furiously pointing to higher limits in other jurisdictions.
Meanwhile the rest of us drive by and wave while they are pulled over at the side of the road.
Suck it up BOWS (Bags of Weight and Size.) Your days of breaking the rules are nearing an end and every time you go to the gate you'll be wondering if this is the day you get caught.
Oct 1, 2014, 5:54 pm
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This is the same self-indulgent bleating that comes from chronic speeders.
They pay no attention to the limits even though they know what they are. When the cruisers show up at the side of the road and the tickets start being handed out they argue and angrily demand the speed limits be raised while furiously pointing to higher limits in other jurisdictions.
Meanwhile the rest of us drive by and wave while they are pulled over at the side of the road.
Suck it up BOWS (Bags of Weight and Size.) Your days of breaking the rules are nearing an end and every time you go to the gate you'll be wondering if this is the day you get caught.
They pay no attention to the limits even though they know what they are. When the cruisers show up at the side of the road and the tickets start being handed out they argue and angrily demand the speed limits be raised while furiously pointing to higher limits in other jurisdictions.
Meanwhile the rest of us drive by and wave while they are pulled over at the side of the road.
Suck it up BOWS (Bags of Weight and Size.) Your days of breaking the rules are nearing an end and every time you go to the gate you'll be wondering if this is the day you get caught.
Oct 1, 2014, 6:20 pm
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I don't want to wait around either nor do I want to go through customs and pick up a checked bag transiting through JFK when my carry-on and I can stay airside. I rarely check unless going to winter destinations and if not making multiple stops.
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Oct 1, 2014, 6:20 pm
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I'm sitting here on 822, pondering whether the guy in the seat behinds guitar would fit in the bag sizer? Perhaps it's one of those folding guitars?!