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We're sure most of you have been following New AC Presence on FT which has received a huge amount of responses.
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Official AC Representative Q&A Thread
#946
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: YTO
Posts: 594
Amex AeroplanPlus Platinum Lounge Access on Rouge tix?
Hi,
The fine print on Amex' website may be out of date, or it may be accurate, or it may simply be wrong. What is MLL's policy for admitting Rouge passengers who present an American Express Aeroplan Plus Platinum card? This card guarantees access when travelling "Air Canada, Air Canada Express..." but doesn't specifically mention Rouge.
Please be sure of the answer.
Many thanks for being here!
The fine print on Amex' website may be out of date, or it may be accurate, or it may simply be wrong. What is MLL's policy for admitting Rouge passengers who present an American Express Aeroplan Plus Platinum card? This card guarantees access when travelling "Air Canada, Air Canada Express..." but doesn't specifically mention Rouge.
Please be sure of the answer.
Many thanks for being here!
#947
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Ottawa
Programs: Cessna TTx Self-Fly
Posts: 2,982
Ben, with the new carry on restriction/enforcement, will I still be able to bring my CPAP machine as a third and medically necessary bag (in addition to my roller bag and personal item) as I have done in days gone by? I had recently squeezed my CPAP into my roll on bag but it will now put the roll on bag weight over the limit so the CPAP will go back into it's own dedicated bag as it used to be many months ago.
#948
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 492
Hi there
I'd like to recommend that the bag sizers be designed using metal (or nice see through plastic) like the United sizers below so that wheels and other parts do not get stuck in between the metal bars. Also, make it easier to fit in and remove quickly, especially if it will be used often.
Also I recommend up to an extra 1 inch of wiggle-room / space for quick and easy removal and fitting.
Alternative, the option which I favour more is to have an "open" style sizer which allows quick measurement and no intrusion, and keep things professional and civilized, like this one:
If you don't see the green shaded area / white line, the bag doesn't go on
I'd be happy to measure my bag every time I fly (2x / week) with the above device.
Of course, would recommend a better design that conforms to AC's new image and branding standards.
I'd like to recommend that the bag sizers be designed using metal (or nice see through plastic) like the United sizers below so that wheels and other parts do not get stuck in between the metal bars. Also, make it easier to fit in and remove quickly, especially if it will be used often.
Also I recommend up to an extra 1 inch of wiggle-room / space for quick and easy removal and fitting.
Alternative, the option which I favour more is to have an "open" style sizer which allows quick measurement and no intrusion, and keep things professional and civilized, like this one:
If you don't see the green shaded area / white line, the bag doesn't go on
I'd be happy to measure my bag every time I fly (2x / week) with the above device.
Of course, would recommend a better design that conforms to AC's new image and branding standards.
Last edited by theseatbelt; Oct 1, 2014 at 9:51 pm
#949
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Programs: Aeroplan SE AND 1MM, HHonors Gold, Marriott Bonvoy Platinum , L'Accor Platinum
Posts: 9,580
YOW-YUL - will AC consider making these flights Rapidair flights?
As you know, YYZ-YUL, YYZ-YUL, YYZ-YOW flights are considered Rapidair flights, for all benefits - regular and promotional.
This has not been the case with YOW-YUL. Will AC consider changing that?
PS-will AC make the new YYZ-Mont Tremblant flights officially Rapidair flights?
This has not been the case with YOW-YUL. Will AC consider changing that?
PS-will AC make the new YYZ-Mont Tremblant flights officially Rapidair flights?
#950
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Flew over the Equator 55 times last 3 years
Programs: LANPASS Comodoro (Emerald), others
Posts: 2,957
Air Canada rouge is for routes that, for the most part, are determined to be primarily leisure. Our Network Planning team does a great job of forecasting viability for new routes and optimising existing routes (e.g. aircraft types, frequencies, timings, etc.). I can't say for certain in this case, but I would imagine they analysed the YYZLIM flight and determined that the types of fares we were getting weren't in line with other flights to Central/South America that may cater to a more varied customer base, and thus felt that ACr was more appropriate/viable than AC mainline. I can only emphasise that it is nigh impossible to determine the customer breakdown from only one or a handful of flights; our Network Planning team has at their disposal a variety of analytical tools and historical data to assist with their analysis.
I will admit I didn't really understand the part about the experts knowing the motivation of flyers by using fare sales history. Could you explain better your phrase “types of fares we were getting weren't in line with other flights to Central/South America that may cater to a more varied customer base”? More varied than business vs leisure?
Supplemental question: To clarify things, what is your operational definition of a “leisure” route? Thinking about it, that may be a hard question for you to answer. Is it as simple as, if you not flying for business then you are flying for leisure? Is so, are not almost all your international flights leisure and hence rouge-able?
#951
Join Date: May 2014
Location: TXL, YUL
Programs: AC 75K
Posts: 43
Ben(s),
I'm curious if there will ever be a moment where AC considers joining Deutsche Bahn's Rail&Fly Program (http://www.bahn.de/p_en/view/tourism...-and-fly.shtml), whereby people catching an international flight within Germany, and certain cities in Austria and Holland, on an eligible carrier can purchase a train ticket to/from their flight for 29€.
Considering AC's European Flight Pass destinations, this would be of HUGE advantage to the many of us who fly into MUC or FRA and then travel onwards to other cities within Germany to which AC does not have a direct flights from Canada (Berlin, Cologne, Stuttgart come to mind as major concentration points).
Several US carriers have this option, and thusly I was wondering / asking if this might also be a possibility for AC? Considering the density of the German train network, it could be a huge asset (and make a FP purchase all the more valuable, since it would exponentially expand the number of final destinations, at least within the middle of Europe).
I'm curious if there will ever be a moment where AC considers joining Deutsche Bahn's Rail&Fly Program (http://www.bahn.de/p_en/view/tourism...-and-fly.shtml), whereby people catching an international flight within Germany, and certain cities in Austria and Holland, on an eligible carrier can purchase a train ticket to/from their flight for 29€.
Considering AC's European Flight Pass destinations, this would be of HUGE advantage to the many of us who fly into MUC or FRA and then travel onwards to other cities within Germany to which AC does not have a direct flights from Canada (Berlin, Cologne, Stuttgart come to mind as major concentration points).
Several US carriers have this option, and thusly I was wondering / asking if this might also be a possibility for AC? Considering the density of the German train network, it could be a huge asset (and make a FP purchase all the more valuable, since it would exponentially expand the number of final destinations, at least within the middle of Europe).
#952
Flying Blue Director
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: CDG/AMS
Posts: 1,864
Thanks Ben. You are quite wrong if you think I based my observation on “only one or a handful of flights”. Nevertheless, a useful strategy I was taught was to repeat back to ensure proper communication. So what I hear you telling me is that my analysis is wrong and that the AC Network Planning team has more correctly determined that YYZLIM is a leisure route. That explains my initial confusion: vacation vs leisure. Summary: rouge is for leisure routes and AC believes YYZLIM is primarily a leisure route. Do I understand what you are saying correctly?
I will admit I didn't really understand the part about the experts knowing the motivation of flyers by using fare sales history. Could you explain better your phrase “types of fares we were getting weren't in line with other flights to Central/South America that may cater to a more varied customer base”? More varied than business vs leisure?
Supplemental question: To clarify things, what is your operational definition of a “leisure” route? Thinking about it, that may be a hard question for you to answer. Is it as simple as, if you not flying for business then you are flying for leisure? Is so, are not almost all your international flights leisure and hence rouge-able?
I will admit I didn't really understand the part about the experts knowing the motivation of flyers by using fare sales history. Could you explain better your phrase “types of fares we were getting weren't in line with other flights to Central/South America that may cater to a more varied customer base”? More varied than business vs leisure?
Supplemental question: To clarify things, what is your operational definition of a “leisure” route? Thinking about it, that may be a hard question for you to answer. Is it as simple as, if you not flying for business then you are flying for leisure? Is so, are not almost all your international flights leisure and hence rouge-able?
Regarding your supplemental question, I would say that leisure routes are primarily high traffic/low yield and cater to a more leisure customer. I'm sure that some people may fly to CUN or PVR for business, for example, but I would imagine the majority of travellers are going there for vacation. Take from that what you will.
#953
Flying Blue Director
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: CDG/AMS
Posts: 1,864
Ben(s),
I'm curious if there will ever be a moment where AC considers joining Deutsche Bahn's Rail&Fly Program (http://www.bahn.de/p_en/view/tourism...-and-fly.shtml), whereby people catching an international flight within Germany, and certain cities in Austria and Holland, on an eligible carrier can purchase a train ticket to/from their flight for 29€.
Considering AC's European Flight Pass destinations, this would be of HUGE advantage to the many of us who fly into MUC or FRA and then travel onwards to other cities within Germany to which AC does not have a direct flights from Canada (Berlin, Cologne, Stuttgart come to mind as major concentration points).
Several US carriers have this option, and thusly I was wondering / asking if this might also be a possibility for AC? Considering the density of the German train network, it could be a huge asset (and make a FP purchase all the more valuable, since it would exponentially expand the number of final destinations, at least within the middle of Europe).
I'm curious if there will ever be a moment where AC considers joining Deutsche Bahn's Rail&Fly Program (http://www.bahn.de/p_en/view/tourism...-and-fly.shtml), whereby people catching an international flight within Germany, and certain cities in Austria and Holland, on an eligible carrier can purchase a train ticket to/from their flight for 29€.
Considering AC's European Flight Pass destinations, this would be of HUGE advantage to the many of us who fly into MUC or FRA and then travel onwards to other cities within Germany to which AC does not have a direct flights from Canada (Berlin, Cologne, Stuttgart come to mind as major concentration points).
Several US carriers have this option, and thusly I was wondering / asking if this might also be a possibility for AC? Considering the density of the German train network, it could be a huge asset (and make a FP purchase all the more valuable, since it would exponentially expand the number of final destinations, at least within the middle of Europe).
#954
Company Representative - Air Canada
Join Date: May 1999
Location: Canada
Posts: 24,215
Ben, with the new carry on restriction/enforcement, will I still be able to bring my CPAP machine as a third and medically necessary bag (in addition to my roller bag and personal item) as I have done in days gone by? I had recently squeezed my CPAP into my roll on bag but it will now put the roll on bag weight over the limit so the CPAP will go back into it's own dedicated bag as it used to be many months ago.
#955
Company Representative - Air Canada
Join Date: May 1999
Location: Canada
Posts: 24,215
Bens
Have you considered displaying the boarding order at gates to help with the boarding issues? e.g. on a sign or roll up banner?
It'd be a sign that actually shows the boarding order to reduce confusion, like this:
BOARDING ORDER
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Priority Boarding
Business Class
Altitude Superelite, Elite
Star Alliance Gold
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Families with small children
Passengers needing assistance
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Economy class rows 50 and higher
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Economy class rows 30 and higher
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All passengers
-----------------------------------------
Enjoy your flight!
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Have you considered displaying the boarding order at gates to help with the boarding issues? e.g. on a sign or roll up banner?
It'd be a sign that actually shows the boarding order to reduce confusion, like this:
BOARDING ORDER
---------------------------------------
Priority Boarding
Business Class
Altitude Superelite, Elite
Star Alliance Gold
----------------------------------------
Families with small children
Passengers needing assistance
-----------------------------------------
Economy class rows 50 and higher
-----------------------------------------
Economy class rows 30 and higher
-----------------------------------------
All passengers
-----------------------------------------
Enjoy your flight!
-----------------------------------------
#957
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Ottawa
Programs: Cessna TTx Self-Fly
Posts: 2,982
Is there a weight restriction to a medical bag? Clearly trying to pass off a 45 lb bag as a CPAP medical device is not reasonable but I sometimes travel with 0.5L-1L of distilled water (depends on destination and availability of distilled water there) for my CPAP and I can see weight becoming questionable if there are hard limits.
#958
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Mississauga Ontario
Posts: 4,104
I guess the workload on this thread is getting a bit heavy? Nice to see a helping hand....
#959
Join Date: Dec 2010
Programs: AC E, BA Bronze, HHonors Gold
Posts: 208
Official AC Representative Q&A Thread
I am based in YUL and often I connect through YYZ. My issue with going through this airport is when I return home from an international flight: you have to go through passport control, pick up bags, then customs and then re-check bags and finally go through security to catch the lest leg of my trip.
It is this last step that I wonder if it could be improved, what about a faster access from the re-check bags point to the boarding gates? (Also faster delivery of bags won't hurt)
Last week Coming back to YUL from CPH, I only had 1:15 to catch my plane in YYZ. I have Nexus so I skipped the line at passport control. My bag was also tag as priority, so it came relatively fast, but then it was a race against the clock to go through customs, drop my bag, go upstairs and pass security and then a last sprint to get to the gate. I barely made it.
It is this last step that I wonder if it could be improved, what about a faster access from the re-check bags point to the boarding gates? (Also faster delivery of bags won't hurt)
Last week Coming back to YUL from CPH, I only had 1:15 to catch my plane in YYZ. I have Nexus so I skipped the line at passport control. My bag was also tag as priority, so it came relatively fast, but then it was a race against the clock to go through customs, drop my bag, go upstairs and pass security and then a last sprint to get to the gate. I barely made it.
#960
Flying Blue Director
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: CDG/AMS
Posts: 1,864
Hi,
The fine print on Amex' website may be out of date, or it may be accurate, or it may simply be wrong. What is MLL's policy for admitting Rouge passengers who present an American Express Aeroplan Plus Platinum card? This card guarantees access when travelling "Air Canada, Air Canada Express..." but doesn't specifically mention Rouge.
Please be sure of the answer.
Many thanks for being here!
The fine print on Amex' website may be out of date, or it may be accurate, or it may simply be wrong. What is MLL's policy for admitting Rouge passengers who present an American Express Aeroplan Plus Platinum card? This card guarantees access when travelling "Air Canada, Air Canada Express..." but doesn't specifically mention Rouge.
Please be sure of the answer.
Many thanks for being here!