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Old Jan 1, 2014, 1:38 am
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Aeroplan Market Fares

I'm looking through Aeroplan's market fares for domestic which seem to be quite interesting.

The prices do seem more reasonable than the classicplus rewards but not something that I'd redeem for. But for the general public I think paying just under twice the miles for non-capacity capped space is quite reasonable.

it also seems that ap isn't putting yq on domestic flights... i wonder if that is a glitch?
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Old Jan 1, 2014, 1:49 am
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Originally Posted by yerffej201
it also seems that ap isn't putting yq on domestic flights... i wonder if that is a glitch?
They did on a YYZ-YEG award quote for me just now:

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Old Jan 1, 2014, 4:27 am
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Originally Posted by yerffej201
I'm looking through Aeroplan's market fares for domestic which seem to be quite interesting.

The prices do seem more reasonable than the classicplus rewards but not something that I'd redeem for.
I'm impressed at how reasonable they seem to be. In my testing I'm seeing Market Fare rewards coming in at 1 aeroplan point = 1.00 cents for domestic economy, 1.50 cents for domestic business, and 1.25 cents for international (both cabins) -- for the standard rates, and then a Distinction discount on the miles required as long as it doesn't go below a minimum threshold (which seems to be 20k for a round trip in the same region; I didn't find anything cheap enough to run into this limit for longer flights).

This means that with dDiamond you would get 2.3 cents per point flying domestic business market reward flights... much better than the valuation I expected them to provide!

YQ seems to be inconsistent -- some flights I see it, some flights I don't. No idea what's up with that, but I don't think anyone has ever understood how YQ works...
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Old Jan 1, 2014, 6:33 am
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I checked a few city pairs and different class of service, I did last minute and summer flights.

The two that stuck out were

Yul-ytz and return : 360$ last minute tango revenue ticket, 15k classic and 164 in taxes, or 20k market (with ddiamond status) and 64$ in charges.

Yul - dtw and return : 1177$ ac last minute flex, 2169$ Ac business flex, classic reward 70k first/business combo + 187 in taxes, market fare economy 61k + 115$ in taxes, market fare business 73.3k and 115$ in taxes.
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Old Jan 1, 2014, 11:09 am
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Originally Posted by tcook052
They did on a YYZ-YEG award quote for me just now:

no yq here:





i'm just really pleasantly surprised about how reasonable the options are.
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Old Jan 1, 2014, 11:33 am
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Priced out a routing where Market Fare was slightly cheaper in points for a dDiamond than Classic. Dollar amount was identical.
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Old Jan 1, 2014, 11:54 am
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Double the miles to get from YYZ to YVR in J than classic - that's not bad at all. The Int'l routings are still insane though...
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Old Jan 1, 2014, 12:06 pm
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Originally Posted by Argonaut1000
Priced out a routing where Market Fare was slightly cheaper in points for a dDiamond than Classic. Dollar amount was identical.
Interesting... what route? it seems that the discount only works on some routes... such as yvr-lax where it is 12.5k classic y and 16.25 market y.
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Old Jan 1, 2014, 12:31 pm
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Originally Posted by yerffej201
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Originally Posted by Argonaut1000


Priced out a routing where Market Fare was slightly cheaper in points for a dDiamond than Classic. Dollar amount was identical.




Interesting... what route? it seems that the discount only works on some routes... such as yvr-lax where it is 12.5k classic y and 16.25 market y.
I've tried yvr- pek last nite. With ddiamond discount the market fare price is a little better than75k.
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Old Jan 1, 2014, 12:52 pm
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Originally Posted by yerffej201
no yq here:
So why would YYZ-YEG draw YQ but not other domestic routes?
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Old Jan 1, 2014, 12:58 pm
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The Market Fare rewards pretty much eliminate the benefit of Priority Rewards at double the ClassicFlight rate for Altitude Elite members. Especially if you have dBlack or above, I'm finding Market Fares are usually below double in economy class.

No stopovers on Market Fare rewards, though.
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Old Jan 1, 2014, 4:05 pm
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YYR-YYJ (only available in Y) is 2.5K miles premium and $17.98 tax/surcharge vs $62.08 with "classic" fare cost with dDiamond. No Nav. Can ($15.00) charge and no YQ($27.00) on the "market" fare. Not bad at all
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Old Jan 1, 2014, 5:21 pm
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Very pleasantly surprised with the Market Fare awards! (I am dDiamond)

On the transborder routes I usually fly, Market Fare opens up virtually every flight with a premium of 20-25% for economy and 15-30% for business. And with LESS fees than the classic rewards to boot.

Sort of like a poor man's IKK!
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Old Jan 4, 2014, 10:19 am
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Market Fare Rewards - no scam charges?

Not sure if this has been mentioned as I didn't see anything, but it appears an added benefit of Market Fare rewards are no scam charges and less fees.

I did a sample booking in May for YYZ-YVR

ClassicFlight - 25K plus...
Fuel Surcharge $54.00
Canada Harmonized Sales Tax $16.03
Nav Canada - Air Navigation Services $30.00
Canada Domestic/International Airport Improvement Fee $45.00
Canada Domestic/International Air Travel Security Charge $14.25
Canada Goods And Service Tax $1.00
Total per passenger $160.28

Market Fare - 32.5K plus...
Canada Domestic/International Air Travel Security Charge $14.25
Canada Harmonized Sales Tax $5.11
Canada Domestic/International Airport Improvement Fee $45.00
Canada Goods And Service Tax $1.00
Total per passenger $65.36

The Fuel Surcharge I expected, but the Nav Canada one is a surprise.
I thought that was 'required?'
7250 miles saves you $95 or 1.3 cents per mile.
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Old Jan 4, 2014, 10:27 am
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It appears the biggest difference is domestic bookings.
Not much difference if any on some sample TPAC/TATL bookings I compared.

One sample YYZ-FRA booking actually had the Market Fare cost of 59K instead of 60K and $30 less fees.
(better than nothing but who wants to pay $680 in fees?)

Last edited by shawneve; Jan 4, 2014 at 10:32 am
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