Question: Using Aeroplan points to upgrade to next class for Europe
#16
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 11
Hi Dorian - trying to re-read your sentence here...if I select a route that isn't on a Star Alliance carrirer I won't be able to apply my Aeroplan points, would I?
#17
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: YYC
Programs: AC SE100K MM
Posts: 903
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...-carriers.html
#18
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 11
thank you thank you mountain girl - definitely helpful
Maybe another dumb question - but using aeroplan points can I buy TK or Swiss air flights? When I search on Aeroplan website I don't get any options for Business class only - I keep getting business + economy combinations and primarily for Lufthansa and AC.
Maybe another dumb question - but using aeroplan points can I buy TK or Swiss air flights? When I search on Aeroplan website I don't get any options for Business class only - I keep getting business + economy combinations and primarily for Lufthansa and AC.
#19
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: ARN
Programs: AC UA TK FI DL
Posts: 800
Yes to TK or Swiss.
Aeroplan's website is useless for these searches.
Use the United Airlines search or ANA search for the availability of seats... then call Aeroplan and tell them exactly the dates and flights you want. Pay the fee and lessen the scamcharges.
Aeroplan's website is useless for these searches.
Use the United Airlines search or ANA search for the availability of seats... then call Aeroplan and tell them exactly the dates and flights you want. Pay the fee and lessen the scamcharges.
#20
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: YYC
Programs: AC SE100K MM
Posts: 903
thank you thank you mountain girl - definitely helpful
Maybe another dumb question - but using aeroplan points can I buy TK or Swiss air flights? When I search on Aeroplan website I don't get any options for Business class only - I keep getting business + economy combinations and primarily for Lufthansa and AC.
Maybe another dumb question - but using aeroplan points can I buy TK or Swiss air flights? When I search on Aeroplan website I don't get any options for Business class only - I keep getting business + economy combinations and primarily for Lufthansa and AC.
You still have a lot to learn so start with this thread
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...-mini-rtw.html
- it will give you an idea about other search tools for your reward flights like using Expert flyer (fee), KVS (fee), ANA tool, using UA.com searching for blue saver rewards.
An example of a routing that would have low YQ to ATH would be YYZ-EWR-ZRH- ATH with the first 2 legs on UA and last on LX. Sometimes you will have to call and speak to an agent if you find a routing that works for you (and has reward seats available) if it does not show up on AE.com and pay a $30 reservation fee.
Last edited by mountaingrl; Apr 5, 2013 at 2:25 pm
#24
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 11
you are right guys - I am trying the simple YYZ>Zur/Vie/FRA>ATH and they are all out of business class.
Not sure if we can post external links, but this is a fantastic website for registering and searching through ANA
http://thepointsguy.com/2011/06/how-...-availability/
Wow - I have learnt a lot on this 1 day...
Not sure if we can post external links, but this is a fantastic website for registering and searching through ANA
http://thepointsguy.com/2011/06/how-...-availability/
Wow - I have learnt a lot on this 1 day...
#25
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: ARN
Programs: AC UA TK FI DL
Posts: 800
you are right guys - I am trying the simple YYZ>Zur/Vie/FRA>ATH and they are all out of business class.
Not sure if we can post external links, but this is a fantastic website for registering and searching through ANA
http://thepointsguy.com/2011/06/how-...-availability/
Wow - I have learnt a lot on this 1 day...
Not sure if we can post external links, but this is a fantastic website for registering and searching through ANA
http://thepointsguy.com/2011/06/how-...-availability/
Wow - I have learnt a lot on this 1 day...
If you post some info of your search, I am sure the gurus on this forum can certainly suggest some possible routings with available seats that you can book...
Also, do YYZ-YUL-ZRH-ATH (with AC fo YYZ-YUL, LX for YUL-ZRH-ATH), you'd save a lot in Scamcharges (fuel surcharges)
good luck!!
#26
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: YVR
Programs: ACSEMM QRGold SPGLifetimePlat FairmontPlat HyattD AMEXCenturion SerenaPlat TalkBoard Founding Member
Posts: 8,963
Ya, post the dates you want to work with and where you want to go. Biggest mistakes people make on FT is being vague, wrong or from Quebec.
Give us dates and airports. We'll usually get you there.
Give us dates and airports. We'll usually get you there.
#27
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 11
Looking to leave Jun 3rd Mon (has to be evening), and returning from Athens on 12th Wed Jun. My dates are pretty fixed unfortunately.
#28
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: ARN
Programs: AC UA TK FI DL
Posts: 800
Fixed dates are tough... But this is the best I could find:
Monday June 3:
AC 344 Toronto (YYZ) - Philadelphia (PHL) 16:40-18:14 E75 (Y only)
US 722 Philadelphia (PHL) - Dublin (DUB) 21:00-08:45+1 B767 (J/Y available)
Tuesday June 4:
LX 401 Dublin (DUB) - Zurich (ZRH) 11:20-14:30 A321 (J only)
LX 1842 Zurich (ZRH) - Athens (ATH) 21:05-00:40+1 A321 (J only)
or
LH 979 Dublin (DUB) - Frankfurt (FRA) 12:10-15:15 A321 (Y only)
A3 833 Frankfurt (FRA) - Athens (ATH) 18:00-21:55 A321 (J only)
Tuesday June 11:
TK 1844 Athens (ATH) - Istanbul (IST) 21:50-23:10 A321 (J only, hotel provided for overnight)
Wednesday Jun 12:
TK 1975 Istanbul (IST) - Dublin (DUB) 07:30-10:05 B737 (J only)
US 723 Dublin (DUB) - Philadelphia (PHL) 11:10-13:45 B767 (J/Y available)
AC 347 Philadelphia (PHL) - Toronto (YYZ) 18:45-20:16 E75 (Y only)
The bulk of the flights are with US Airways, Swiss and Turkish in Business Class. So Scamcharges should be minimal. With fixed dates, it's virtually impossible to get any award seats in J, but there still seem to be seats available for TATL between Philadelphia and Dublin.
Of course, you can always redeem in Y, but that's not worth it. Good luck!
Monday June 3:
AC 344 Toronto (YYZ) - Philadelphia (PHL) 16:40-18:14 E75 (Y only)
US 722 Philadelphia (PHL) - Dublin (DUB) 21:00-08:45+1 B767 (J/Y available)
Tuesday June 4:
LX 401 Dublin (DUB) - Zurich (ZRH) 11:20-14:30 A321 (J only)
LX 1842 Zurich (ZRH) - Athens (ATH) 21:05-00:40+1 A321 (J only)
or
LH 979 Dublin (DUB) - Frankfurt (FRA) 12:10-15:15 A321 (Y only)
A3 833 Frankfurt (FRA) - Athens (ATH) 18:00-21:55 A321 (J only)
Tuesday June 11:
TK 1844 Athens (ATH) - Istanbul (IST) 21:50-23:10 A321 (J only, hotel provided for overnight)
Wednesday Jun 12:
TK 1975 Istanbul (IST) - Dublin (DUB) 07:30-10:05 B737 (J only)
US 723 Dublin (DUB) - Philadelphia (PHL) 11:10-13:45 B767 (J/Y available)
AC 347 Philadelphia (PHL) - Toronto (YYZ) 18:45-20:16 E75 (Y only)
The bulk of the flights are with US Airways, Swiss and Turkish in Business Class. So Scamcharges should be minimal. With fixed dates, it's virtually impossible to get any award seats in J, but there still seem to be seats available for TATL between Philadelphia and Dublin.
Of course, you can always redeem in Y, but that's not worth it. Good luck!
#29
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: YUL
Programs: AC Altitude -.006k
Posts: 895
Consider hanging on to your Amex MR points, they are more flexible than AP miles. You can pay with points, worth .8 to 1.0 cents (so-so value IMHO), or transfer to another frequent flyer or hotel program. And if ever you need to top up your AP miles, the transfer is near immediate.
#30
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,784
just to throw it out there on Air Transat YYZ-ATH round-trip
too bad they only have June 2 to June 10, at $913/person (1 Club class makes it $1913, ouch)
too bad they only have June 2 to June 10, at $913/person (1 Club class makes it $1913, ouch)
$912.19 / per adult incl. tx + fees price details
Economy
Club Class
upgrade
Sun, June 02, 2013
Next-day arrival
Mon, June 03, 2013
2:40 PM Depart from Toronto (YYZ)
7:10 AM Arrive in Athens (ATH)
Travel time 9h30 min
TS 690
Operated by
Air Transat
Add to shopping cart »
Economy
Club Class
upgrade
Mon, June 10, 2013
11:20 AM Depart from Athens (ATH)
3:05 PM Arrive in Toronto (YYZ)
Travel time 10h45 min
TS 691
Operated by
Air Transat
Economy
Club Class
upgrade
Sun, June 02, 2013
Next-day arrival
Mon, June 03, 2013
2:40 PM Depart from Toronto (YYZ)
7:10 AM Arrive in Athens (ATH)
Travel time 9h30 min
TS 690
Operated by
Air Transat
Add to shopping cart »
Economy
Club Class
upgrade
Mon, June 10, 2013
11:20 AM Depart from Athens (ATH)
3:05 PM Arrive in Toronto (YYZ)
Travel time 10h45 min
TS 691
Operated by
Air Transat