Will Air Canada buy the C Series ?
Mar 10, 2013, 9:33 am
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Mar 10, 2013, 11:53 pm
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Barely. But they gain a significant number of incremental seats. Which they need on YYZ-YYC/YVR.
Even the 320 struggles in the winter, particularly on YYZ-SFO. With the occasional diversion/fuel stop at YWG.
So they fly 1 or 2 less flights per day. Voila, problem solved.
A321 has no issues to on YYZLAX or YYZSFO
AC CEO is focussed on yield. A321 has a lot of seats to fill and more supply puts pressure on pricing
Mar 11, 2013, 8:08 am
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I agree! Just need to convince those pesky business travellers who demand frequency over gauge in many markets
Mar 11, 2013, 11:55 am
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The C-series really isn't an A321 replacement, and that's what AC really needs at this point -- more A321s (or most likely, the next-gen successor). The 319 fleet is good for another 12-15 years.
So yeah, most likely no room for the C-series for at least the next decade. A320s that leave the fleet likely to be replaced with new-build A321's, but other than that...
So yeah, most likely no room for the C-series for at least the next decade. A320s that leave the fleet likely to be replaced with new-build A321's, but other than that...
AC will do something here in the next few years. My forecast is the current narrow body fleet will all be retired in the coming decade and will be replaced by some combination of C-Series at the smaller end (100-125) and 737 or 320-series for 150-180 passengers.
Mar 11, 2013, 12:27 pm
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A combination of the C-seris and 321NEO would be an impressive single aisle fleet. I'm really hoping that's the way AC decides to go.
Mar 11, 2013, 1:53 pm
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How will the 321Neo be that different from the 737-9?
Mar 11, 2013, 2:07 pm
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Cabin width
737 11 ft 7 in (3.54m)
A320 12 ft 2 in (3.70m)
7 inches may not seem like much but on an aircraft it's enormous, A320 has more passenger and/or Asile room where it counts width
737 11 ft 7 in (3.54m)
A320 12 ft 2 in (3.70m)
7 inches may not seem like much but on an aircraft it's enormous, A320 has more passenger and/or Asile room where it counts width
Mar 11, 2013, 3:14 pm
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Mar 11, 2013, 4:52 pm
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So I would say it's CSeries all the way to 321.
Mar 11, 2013, 6:40 pm
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There are many cost considerations outside of the actual frame. IMO, it's too large a gap for Boeing to make up with price concessions on the aircraft
Mar 11, 2013, 8:23 pm
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Up to now Boeing has had the edge in terms of CASM for the 737 vs. 320. It would appear that Boeing is making some compromises in terms of fan diameter due to ground clearance challenges that will allow Airbus to close the gap considerably, but I'd be interested if you have a link to any data suggesting the NEO will have a lower CASM than the MAX.
Mar 12, 2013, 7:04 am
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Here's one:
http://aeroturbopower.blogspot.ca/20...fuel-burn.html
Airbus has the advantage of a larger fan blade on the CFM-56 engine while Boeing benefits from lower weight per seat and smaller fuselage cross-section.Untilvery recently Boeing also had the edge with winglets, but Airbus has probably caught up with their recently introduced sharklets.
http://aeroturbopower.blogspot.ca/20...fuel-burn.html
Airbus has the advantage of a larger fan blade on the CFM-56 engine while Boeing benefits from lower weight per seat and smaller fuselage cross-section.Untilvery recently Boeing also had the edge with winglets, but Airbus has probably caught up with their recently introduced sharklets.