I didn't think this was quite worthy of posting in the Mileage run forum, so I will here.
Air Canada LAX-ZRH (and other European destinations, I tried Lyon as well) via YUL or YYZ in Exec. first pricing out at about $1500 each way, vs. the usual $2500 for travel in June/July. Other timing and destinations may be similarly priced, I didn't dig too deeply, but wanted to share this info while the flights were still available! Based on current econ fares, first class pricing is just double the former.
Rules
Search: Departing LAX on 07/18/13 for LHR
Fare basis code ZHNC20S
Flying AC
Routing via North Atlantic
Rule Category Rule Text
RULE APPLICATION AND OTHER CONDITIONS NOTE - THE FOLLOWING TEXT IS INFORMATIONAL AND NOT
VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
SPECIAL BUSINESS CLASS FARES BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 2/
3.
APPLICATION
AREA
THESE FARES APPLY
BETWEEN AREA 1/AREA 2/AREA 3.
CLASS OF SERVICE
THESE FARES APPLY FOR BUSINESS CLASS SERVICE.
CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS
CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY
THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE
AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS,
WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN
FLIGHT, WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CARRIER$S BEST
JUDGEMENT.
OTHER CONDITIONS
Z CLASS FARE IS NOT APPLICABLE FOR ANY OTHER
DISCOUNTS.
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Z CLASS FARES ACCRUES BASE MILES AND ELITE
STATUE BONUS MILES BUT ARE NOT ELLIGIBLE FOR
CABIN/CLASS OF SERVICE BONUS MILES.
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MILEAGE UPGRADE FOR P/Z BOOKING CLASSES NOT
PERMITTED.
ELIGIBILITY NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
DAY/TIME NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
SEASONALITY PERMITTED 28JUN13 THROUGH 02SEP13 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR. SEASON IS BASED ON DATE OF
ORIGIN.
FLIGHT APPLICATION IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN AREA 1
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA
ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AC
ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY 9L
ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AX
ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY G7
ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY OO
ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY RP
ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY S5
ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY YV
ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY 3M
ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY XE
ANY AC FLIGHT OPERATED BY AC
ANY AC FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA
ANY AC FLIGHT OPERATED BY QK
ANY AC FLIGHT OPERATED BY RS
ANY AC FLIGHT OPERATED BY 9M
ANY AC FLIGHT OPERATED BY ZX
ANY AC FLIGHT OPERATED BY 8K
ANY AC FLIGHT OPERATED BY YN.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA
TRANSATLANTIC SECTORS ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AC FLIGHT OPERATED BY AC
ANY AC FLIGHT OPERATED BY LH
ANY AC FLIGHT OPERATED BY LX
ANY AC FLIGHT OPERATED BY OS
ANY AC FLIGHT OPERATED BY SN
ANY AC FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA
ANY AC FLIGHT OPERATED BY VO
ANY AC FLIGHT OPERATED BY ZX.
ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/TICKETING CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT
LEAST 50 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE.
WAITLIST NOT PERMITTED.
TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 72 HOURS AFTER
RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 50 DAYS BEFORE
DEPARTURE WHICHEVER IS EARLIER.
MINIMUM STAY TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER
THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
MAXIMUM STAY TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN
3 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
STOPOVERS STOPOVERS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
TRANSFERS 5 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION.
3 PERMITTED IN AREA 2/AREA 3 IN EACH
DIRECTION
2 PERMITTED IN AREA 1 IN EACH DIRECTION.
FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED
SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
COMBINATIONS END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE
COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED WITH NO
RESTRICTIONS. FARES MUST BE SHOWN SEPARATELY ON THE
TICKET. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA THE POINT OF COMBINATION.
OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED. MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/
LESS THAN MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE
COMPONENT.
-TO FORM ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER AC/LH/
LX/OS/UA
OR FOR CARRIER SN IN ANY RULE
FOR TRAVEL VIA THE ATLANTIC.
BLACKOUT DATES NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY.
SURCHARGES SECURITY SURCHARGE OF CAD 10.00 OR USD 7.00 WILL BE
ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER ANY PASSENGER FOR
DEPARTURE FROM/TO/VIA JAMAICA.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
THIS CAN BE FOUND IN AC RULE 23
ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED.
TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS NO TRAVEL DATE RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
SALES RESTRICTIONS FOOTNOTE RULE
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 07FEB13.
FARE RULE
TICKETS MAY NOT BE SOLD IN IRAN.
TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA 1/AREA 2/AREA 3.
GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
TICKETS MAY NOT BE SOLD IN IRAN.
TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA 1/AREA 2/AREA 3.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY PERMITTED UNDER
GUIDELINES SET FORTH BY CARRIER. CONTACT
CARRIER FOR DETAILS.
PENALTIES CANCELLATIONS
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
IF ANY PART OF THE TICKET IS UNUSED IT HAS NO
VALUE AFTER TICKETED DEPARTURE DATE.
CHANGES
BEFORE DEPARTURE
CHARGE USD 400.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - FOR O/B CHANGE
THE NEW BASE FARE AMOUNT MUST BE
RECALCULATED USING CURRENT AND APPLICABLE FARES IN
EFFECT AT THE DATE OF ISSUANCE. CHARGE DIFFERENCE
IN FARE PLUS CHANGE FEE. CHANGE FEE IS SUBJECT TO
EACH CHANGE TRANSACTION.
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BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - FOR I/B CHANGE
THE NEW BASE FARE AMOUNT MUST BE RECALCULATED
USING HISTORICAL AND APPLICABLE FARES IN EFFECT
AT THE ORIGINAL TICKET DATE. CHARGE DIFFERENCE
IN FARE PLUS CHANGE FEE. CHANGE FEE IS SUBJECT TO
EACH CHANGE TRANSACTION.
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NEW FARE AMOUNT MAY BE LOWER/EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN
ORIGINAL FARE. IF NEW FARE IS LOWER THAN ORIGINAL
FARE-NO REFUND PERMITTED. THE RESIDUAL AMOUNT IS
FORFEIT.
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CHANGES NOT PERMITTED IN CASE OF NO SHOWS -
REFER TO CANCELLATION PENALTY.
IN THE EVENT OF A DOMESTIC/TRANSBORDER AND
INTERNATIONAL AC FARE COMBINATION - INTERNATIONAL
RULE PROVISION FOR CHANGE AND CANCELLATION WILL
APPLY.
AFTER DEPARTURE
CHARGE USD 400.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY
THE NEW BASE FARE AMOUNT MUST BE RECALCULATED
USING HISTORICAL AND APPLICABLE FARES IN EFFECT
AT THE ORIGINAL TICKET DATE. CHARGE DIFFERENCE
IN FARE PLUS CHANGE FEE. CHANGE FEE IS SUBJECT TO
EACH CHANGE TRANSACTION.
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NEW FARE AMOUNT MAY BE LOWER/EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN
ORIGINAL FARE. IF NEW FARE IS LOWER THAN ORIGINAL
FARE-NO REFUND PERMITTED. THE RESIDUAL AMOUNT IS
FORFEIT.
-------------------------------------------------
CHANGES NOT PERMITTED IN CASE OF NO SHOWS -
REFER TO CANCELLATION PENALTY.
IN THE EVENT OF A DOMESTIC/TRANSBORDER AND
INTERNATIONAL AC FARE COMBINATION - INTERNATIONAL
RULE PROVISION FOR CHANGE AND CANCELLATION WILL
APPLY.
HIP/MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS NO HIP OR MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS APPLY.
TICKET ENDORSEMENTS THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED
- CXLFEE/CHGFEE - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.
CHILDREN DISCOUNTS CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - NO DISCOUNT.
OR - 1ST INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 -
CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS IN.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - NO
DISCOUNT.
OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 8-11 - NO DISCOUNT.
TOUR CONDUCTOR DISCOUNTS NO DISCOUNTS FOR TOUR CONDUCTORS.
AGENT DISCOUNTS NO DISCOUNTS FOR SALE AGENTS.
ALL OTHER DISCOUNTS NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
NO DISCOUNTS APPLY
MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
THE CHARGE FOR LOST TICKETS IS AS FOLLOWS--
USD 75.00
CAD 100.00
EUR 100.00
FARE BY RULE NOT APPLICABLE.
GROUPS NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY.
TOURS NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY.
VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY.
DEPOSITS NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY.
VOLUNTARY CHANGES IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS
BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN
BY THOSE OF ANY CARRIERS INTERNATIONAL FARES
CHARGE USD 400.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE
COMPONENTS AND
REPRICE USING CURRENTLY TKTD FARE
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. NO CHANGE TO STOPOVERS AND CONNECTIONS/1ST
FLIGHT COUPON/FARE BREAKS
2. AC FARES ARE USED
3. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
4. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF FARE COMPONENT
OR -
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON
2. AC FARES ARE USED
3. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
4. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF FARE COMPONENT
OR -
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. AC FARES ARE USED
2. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF FARE COMPONENT
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE IGNORE RESIDUAL THEN
ADD-COLLECT
ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMOUNT.
OR -
BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN
BY THOSE OF AC INTERNATIONAL FARES CHARGE SUM OF FEES
OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
CHANGES NOT PERMITTED/REFUND TKT-ANY REMAINING AMT
WILL APPLY TO NEW TKT
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. CHANGE IS AFTER ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT
ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW
ENDORSEMENTS.
OR -
BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN
BY THOSE OF AC INTERNATIONAL FARES CHARGE SUM OF FEES
OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
CHANGES NOT PERMITTED/REFUND TKT-ANY REMAINING AMT
WILL APPLY TO NEW TKT
REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT
ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW
ENDORSEMENTS.
OR -
AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN
BY THOSE OF AC INTERNATIONAL FARES
CHARGE USD 400.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE
COMPONENTS - CATEGORY 19 DISCOUNTS APPLY AND
REPRICE USING CURRENTLY TKTD FARE
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. NO CHANGE TO STOPOVERS AND CONNECTIONS/1ST
FLIGHT COUPON/FARE BREAKS
2. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT
3. AC FARES ARE USED
4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF FARE COMPONENT
OR -
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT
2. AC FARES ARE USED
3. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
4. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF FARE COMPONENT
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE IGNORE RESIDUAL THEN
ADD-COLLECT
ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMOUNT.
VOLUNTARY REFUNDS NO VOLUNTARY REFUNDS DATA FOUND.
NEGOTIATED FARES NOT APPLICABLE.
INTERNATIONAL CONSTRUCTION NOT A CONSTRUCTED FARE
Tried with same departure date (Jul 10) and Z fare was double what you got ($1422 plus taxes and fees). Did you use a code? What was your return date? Any dates I try around that time give similar or pricier result.
Thanks for the heads up. BOS-YYZ-CPH is $3+K cheaper for two of us, return than just YYZ-CPH. Now to decide if I want to spend $6.5K on those tickets or hope for a seat sale to Europe out of NYC later in the spring.
Additional to my earlier post...flights that include segments on code share Swiss (for example YUL-ZRH) appear to ticket in Z class and that equals 175% RDM (and 125% PQM) which is a nice bonus as well.
Taxes and fees do add a huge amount- if you use Air Canada.com in USA-mode, the total fee is displayed (guess it has to do with US FTC rules) while the Canadian version of the site excludes fees from the main price list until the flight is selected...
Still, at $3K for round-trip business class LAX-ZRH I think that's about $2K off the usual fare.
AC flights are usually cheaper from the US, I have been saying all of last year this, that is why I add a US destination on my cross country trips as it saves me money!
It pays to live near the US border hen flying
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2013: 81,461 AQM with 87 AQS
2012:181,353 status miles with 155 segments
AC flights are usually cheaper from the US, I have been saying all of last year this, that is why I add a US destination on my cross country trips as it saves me money!
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2013: 23,848 AQM, 27 AQS (80,477 / 75 planned), 11/12 eUps (8 in advance, 3 at gate)
The opinions stated here are my own, not necessarily those of my employer.
