Last edit by: Arcanum
Flights operated by Air Canada rouge
NOTE: Rouge Wifi information can be found here
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...l#post28448087
Dates in brackets indicate planned start of rouge service (either as a new route or replacing mainline service). ML placed before a date indicates the date that service is reverting to mainline.
All Airbus A319/A321 service is in the new Premium Rouge configuration with 2x2J seats. All other routes are Boeing 767-300ER aircraft in a 24J/258Y layout.
Airport codes in blue indicate that these routes are Boeing 767-300ER aircraft for all services.
Airport codes in red indicate that these routes are split between Boeing 767-300ER and Airbus services.
Airport codes in black indicate that these routes are Airbus aircraft for all services.
Routes are organized based on the established rouge bases of YYZ, YUL, YYC, and YVR
*Seasonal Summer Service
YYZ
Canada
YQT YQY YXX YLW YYG (02MAY-OCT) YDF YQB YQM (01MAY19) YFC (01JUL19)
USA
MCO TPA LAS FLL HNL SRQ RSW SAN PHX MIA PSP (14DEC16)
Mexico
CUN PVR SJD
Caribbean
KIN NAS LIR GND MBJ AZS CCC CUR HUX PUJ POP SKB SJO SXM LRM HOG SNU UVF VRA BGI (07JAN) POS (21DEC16)
Europe
ATH BCN EDI VCE MAN LIS PRG BUD GLA LGW
Central and South America
LIM BOG PTY
YUL
USA
LAS MCO FLL PBI TPA MIA
Mexico
CUN MEX PVR (18NOV16)
Caribbean
ZSA CCC HOG PUJ SNU PLS POP PAP NAS (17JAN) PTP
Europe
FCO ATH BCN NCE VCE
Central and South America
SJO (22DEC16)
Africa
CMN
YYC
Canada
YHZ* YHM (2016)
USA
LAS PHX (winter only - PHX AC Express in summer)
YVR
USA
LAS HNL OGG PHX PSP KOA SAN (02JUN)
Mexico
CUN PVR
Asia
KIX
Europe
DUB LGA KEF
What to Do If Your Flight Has Been Rouged According to the AC Rep "Air Canada Altitude": call AC Reservations, cancel and get a refund.
Air Canada rouge, a leisure airline
#5011
Join Date: May 2013
Location: west coast best coast
Programs: TINDER GOLD, STARBUCKS GOLD, COSTCO EXECUTIVE!!
Posts: 3,987
#5012
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Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: YVR
Programs: AC SE*2MM. SPG Plat life
Posts: 4,644
Lax to Yyz is high yield. Plus, fly Rouge you can use star airline lounge.
#5013
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 151
Given Mrs. Pappy was deeply unimpressed by the tiny seats when she inadvertently ended up on a Rouge flight (at all of 5'5") we both laughed at the idea of paying 40% more than WJ to Vegas on Rouged flights. I get that Rouge is supposed to be an economy variant, but surely you can't then charge (a lot) more for less?! Or are the relying on people loyally booking AC without knowing what they are getting?
Probably our first non AC/*A flight in something like 5 years. Well done AC, I guess...
Probably our first non AC/*A flight in something like 5 years. Well done AC, I guess...
#5014
Join Date: Jun 2010
Programs: AC SE100K , 1MM, Hilton Diamond, KLM
Posts: 578
Interesting 40 percent less so I checked to see what the cost was to LAS from YXE and found air Canada at 2900.00 for 3 people and West Jet 1900.00 . AC would be Rouge from Calgary or Vancouver .
I guess I need to look more serious at West Jet. for future travel.
I guess I need to look more serious at West Jet. for future travel.
#5015
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Canada
Programs: AC E50k, A3*G, UA*S, MR Titanium, HHonors Gold, Carlson Gold, NEXUS
Posts: 3,668
It is ridiculous that AC charges at least as much as mainline for routes that are rouged though. I thought Rouge was a LCC? I'm happy to have narrowly avoided it in favour of WS on YHZ-YYC. That would have been an uncomfortable 5 hours.
#5016
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Decided to travel back in time to about a year ago and see if the answer to your question was in this 335 page-5,000+ post thread
From Nov & Dec 2014:
From Nov & Dec 2014:
#5017
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 812
YXE to YYC/YVR and then YYC/YVR to LAS.
Better luck next time.
#5018
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Location: YVR
Programs: AC SE*2MM. SPG Plat life
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Don't forget that you get a 5-10% discount on WS if you have an Amex Plat and book through Amex Plat Travel Services!
It is ridiculous that AC charges at least as much as mainline for routes that are rouged though. I thought Rouge was a LCC? I'm happy to have narrowly avoided it in favour of WS on YHZ-YYC. That would have been an uncomfortable 5 hours.
It is ridiculous that AC charges at least as much as mainline for routes that are rouged though. I thought Rouge was a LCC? I'm happy to have narrowly avoided it in favour of WS on YHZ-YYC. That would have been an uncomfortable 5 hours.
#5019
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada
Programs: UA*1K MM
Posts: 23,273
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tabl...ans01b-eng.htm
the load factors for the last two months were:
Feb.2015 - Air Canada: 81.9%, Westjet 84.3%
Mar.2015 - Air Canada: 84.0%, Westjet 81.3%
#5020
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: sqrt(-united states of apologist)
Programs: *$ Green
Posts: 5,403
Good thing the government keeps these statistics, or we would have to believe your baseless statements
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tabl...ans01b-eng.htm
the load factors for the last two months were:
Feb.2015 - Air Canada: 81.9%, Westjet 84.3%
Mar.2015 - Air Canada: 84.0%, Westjet 81.3%
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tabl...ans01b-eng.htm
the load factors for the last two months were:
Feb.2015 - Air Canada: 81.9%, Westjet 84.3%
Mar.2015 - Air Canada: 84.0%, Westjet 81.3%
Assuming he is booking in the near future (May/June/July), these were the load factors for the same months last year (from the same website as yours):
#5022
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: sqrt(-united states of apologist)
Programs: *$ Green
Posts: 5,403
Well, if only economics worked that way... Anyone could get a PhD in it in about 2-3 weeks TOPS!
IMHO, I think that a 5% difference is probably just enough to wipe out the cheapo fares from the fare map.
124 economy seats x 5% = 6.2 seats. Could be the difference between T6 and T0? *shrugs*
If my airline would sell all its allocated cheapo fares way before the competition, I would be comfortable waiting to sell the remaining seats at a higher price while the rest of the competition struggles to find the rest of the price sensitive market.
I find AC and WS prices to be generally in line with each other (from the little I have seen).
#5024
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Location: YVR
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Good thing the government keeps these statistics, or we would have to believe your baseless statements
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tabl...ans01b-eng.htm
the load factors for the last two months were:
Feb.2015 - Air Canada: 81.9%, Westjet 84.3%
Mar.2015 - Air Canada: 84.0%, Westjet 81.3%
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tabl...ans01b-eng.htm
the load factors for the last two months were:
Feb.2015 - Air Canada: 81.9%, Westjet 84.3%
Mar.2015 - Air Canada: 84.0%, Westjet 81.3%
Why are you quoting system load factors. Missed the point again. Also, I believe the load factors are a requirement of the TSX and not for statcan.