May 5, 2014, 8:21 pm
Last edit by: Arcanum
Flights operated by Air Canada rouge
NOTE: Rouge Wifi information can be found here
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...l#post28448087
Dates in brackets indicate planned start of rouge service (either as a new route or replacing mainline service). ML placed before a date indicates the date that service is reverting to mainline.
All Airbus A319/A321 service is in the new Premium Rouge configuration with 2x2J seats. All other routes are Boeing 767-300ER aircraft in a 24J/258Y layout.
Airport codes in blue indicate that these routes are Boeing 767-300ER aircraft for all services.
Airport codes in red indicate that these routes are split between Boeing 767-300ER and Airbus services.
Airport codes in black indicate that these routes are Airbus aircraft for all services.
Routes are organized based on the established rouge bases of YYZ, YUL, YYC, and YVR
*Seasonal Summer Service
YYZ
Canada
YQT YQY YXX YLW YYG (02MAY-OCT) YDF YQB YQM (01MAY19) YFC (01JUL19)
USA
MCO TPA LAS FLL HNL SRQ RSW SAN PHX MIA PSP (14DEC16)
Mexico
CUN PVR SJD
Caribbean
KIN NAS LIR GND MBJ AZS CCC CUR HUX PUJ POP SKB SJO SXM LRM HOG SNU UVF VRA BGI (07JAN) POS (21DEC16)
Europe
ATH BCN EDI VCE MAN LIS PRG BUD GLA LGW
Central and South America
LIM BOG PTY
YUL
USA
LAS MCO FLL PBI TPA MIA
Mexico
CUN MEX PVR (18NOV16)
Caribbean
ZSA CCC HOG PUJ SNU PLS POP PAP NAS (17JAN) PTP
Europe
FCO ATH BCN NCE VCE
Central and South America
SJO (22DEC16)
Africa
CMN
YYC
Canada
YHZ* YHM (2016)
USA
LAS PHX (winter only - PHX AC Express in summer)
YVR
USA
LAS HNL OGG PHX PSP KOA SAN (02JUN)
Mexico
CUN PVR
Asia
KIX
Europe
DUB LGA KEF
What to Do If Your Flight Has Been Rouged According to the AC Rep "Air Canada Altitude": call AC Reservations, cancel and get a refund.
Air Canada rouge, a leisure airline
Feb 17, 2017, 12:25 pm
#7066
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: YHZ/YQM
Programs: Aeroplan
Posts: 1,618
First time I've heard YHZ referred to as a larger airport, except in their marketing materials. But I supposed it is the connecting point to catch a prop plane to the smaller eastern airports. This change in timing could make it harder to get from YYJ to some place like YQY.
Feb 18, 2017, 5:47 am
#7067
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Join Date: Sep 2014
Programs: AC SE100K-1MM, NH, DL, AA, BA, Global Entry/Nexus, APEC..
Posts: 18,877
Wasn't impressed to see my direct flight east is being rouged!
http://www.timescolonist.com/news/lo...ute-1.10019525
Also see the departure time shifting is a pain. With the old 0600 I could arrive in time to have dinner and see a game or concert the night before meetings, the mid day departure takes that away.
http://www.timescolonist.com/news/lo...ute-1.10019525
Also see the departure time shifting is a pain. With the old 0600 I could arrive in time to have dinner and see a game or concert the night before meetings, the mid day departure takes that away.
BTW, I posted this upthread on Jan 24:
Feb 18, 2017, 8:36 am
#7069
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Programs: AC SE100K-1MM, NH, DL, AA, BA, Global Entry/Nexus, APEC..
Posts: 18,877
Feb 18, 2017, 8:40 am
#7070
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: YEG
Programs: AC Lifetime SE100K, 3MM, SPG Lifetime Plat, Hertz PC, National Executive Elite
Posts: 2,901
Why would you anticipate a difference? How can you tell by looking at the posted pricing? Is it possible that ACr sells a higher percentage of Tango vs Latitude or flex?
Feb 18, 2017, 8:42 am
#7071
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Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: YVR
Programs: AC SE*2MM. SPG Plat life
Posts: 4,644
Usually the fares are the same or close to the same. The difference is the operational cost for AC. A lot of Rouge route would have been unprofitable with AC mainline service.
Feb 18, 2017, 8:46 am
#7072
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Just went through April and May and it appears Rouge YYZ-YYJ starts May 1
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Last edited by 24left; Feb 18, 2017 at 10:28 am Reason: eigenvector catches the error, saves the day!
Feb 18, 2017, 10:17 am
#7073
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: YUL
Programs: AC SE (*A Gold), Bonvoy Platinum Elite, Hilton Gold, Amex Platinum / AP Reserve, NEXUS, Global Entry
Posts: 5,691
Correct. In other words, AC makes more money by offering its customers a lousier experiences while not passing along any of the associated changes by switching to ACr.
Feb 18, 2017, 10:21 am
#7074
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: YVR
Programs: UA Premier Platinum
Posts: 3,759
Feb 18, 2017, 10:29 am
#7075
Suspended
Join Date: Sep 2014
Programs: AC SE100K-1MM, NH, DL, AA, BA, Global Entry/Nexus, APEC..
Posts: 18,877
Feb 18, 2017, 10:39 am
#7076
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Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: YVR
Programs: AC SE*2MM. SPG Plat life
Posts: 4,644
I would think it's not about making more money, but making some money, instead of losing money with mainline.
Feb 18, 2017, 11:51 am
#7077
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: YUL
Programs: AC SE (*A Gold), Bonvoy Platinum Elite, Hilton Gold, Amex Platinum / AP Reserve, NEXUS, Global Entry
Posts: 5,691
You think AC ran those leisure routes at a loss? No way. Even back when the Bens were around, they clearly said that certain routes didn't meet their profitability expectations. Making more profit with ACr doesn't mean they made no (or negative) profit previously.
Feb 18, 2017, 12:02 pm
#7078
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Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: YVR
Programs: AC SE*2MM. SPG Plat life
Posts: 4,644
A lot of AC leisure routes ran as a loss. All airlines have routes that run losses, for many reasons. Also, Rouge opened a lot of new route that would have never happened on mainline.
Feb 19, 2017, 11:33 am
#7079
Join Date: Mar 2012
Programs: Mileage Plus 1K; Marriott Platinum; Hilton Gold
Posts: 6,355
HNL flight reports? Crewing?
I'm considering taking the plunge and booking my first Rouge flight (Premium) HNL-YVR for next Christmas. It's half the price of flying United through SFO.
I haven't read through this entire thread, but in the recent pages, I haven't seen any reports of travel on the 767 to/from HNL. I did read "Lucky's" blog about TPA-YYZ on a 767 in Premium Rouge, and it sounded bearable.
I also wonder whether they schedule one set of pilots do a return trip YVR-HNL-YVR, as Harmony Airways did once upon a time? Not sure I'd like to be aboard for landing in a snowstorm at YVR with a crew that's been on duty for twelve or more hours.
Any experiences from this route would be much appreciated.
I haven't read through this entire thread, but in the recent pages, I haven't seen any reports of travel on the 767 to/from HNL. I did read "Lucky's" blog about TPA-YYZ on a 767 in Premium Rouge, and it sounded bearable.
I also wonder whether they schedule one set of pilots do a return trip YVR-HNL-YVR, as Harmony Airways did once upon a time? Not sure I'd like to be aboard for landing in a snowstorm at YVR with a crew that's been on duty for twelve or more hours.
Any experiences from this route would be much appreciated.
Feb 19, 2017, 12:10 pm
#7080
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: OGG, YYC
Programs: AA, AC
Posts: 3,697
I'm considering taking the plunge and booking my first Rouge flight (Premium) HNL-YVR for next Christmas. It's half the price of flying United through SFO.
I haven't read through this entire thread, but in the recent pages, I haven't seen any reports of travel on the 767 to/from HNL. I did read "Lucky's" blog about TPA-YYZ on a 767 in Premium Rouge, and it sounded bearable.
I also wonder whether they schedule one set of pilots do a return trip YVR-HNL-YVR, as Harmony Airways did once upon a time? Not sure I'd like to be aboard for landing in a snowstorm at YVR with a crew that's been on duty for twelve or more hours.
Any experiences from this route would be much appreciated.
I haven't read through this entire thread, but in the recent pages, I haven't seen any reports of travel on the 767 to/from HNL. I did read "Lucky's" blog about TPA-YYZ on a 767 in Premium Rouge, and it sounded bearable.
I also wonder whether they schedule one set of pilots do a return trip YVR-HNL-YVR, as Harmony Airways did once upon a time? Not sure I'd like to be aboard for landing in a snowstorm at YVR with a crew that's been on duty for twelve or more hours.
Any experiences from this route would be much appreciated.