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Old Nov 13, 12, 10:01 pm   #1
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Edmonton woman sues Air Canada over ‘scalding’ water spill

Edmonton woman sues Air Canada over ‘scalding’ water spill

I wonder if the other passenger was named in lawsuit too?

These lawsuits always bother me, don't tea and coffee usually involve hot water? is it not common sense that hot water can burn? Is there not a responsibility for individual, it is not like the FA was providing service with malice!
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Old Nov 13, 12, 10:26 pm   #2
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These lawsuits always bother me, don't tea and coffee usually involve hot water? is it not common sense that hot water can burn? Is there not a responsibility for individual, it is not like the FA was providing service with malice!
There's hot and then there's scalding hot and the temperature and it being served without a lid seem to be the basis of the lawsuit.

BTW while the passenger may be from YEG the flight surely wasn't as there are no nonstop AC mainline flights from here to SFO.
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Old Nov 13, 12, 10:35 pm   #3
 
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There's hot and then there's scalding hot
That's what made the difference in the McDonald's case many years ago. The coffee was at a temperature that would have been unsafe to consume.

I'm not sure about in this case. Either way, I'm always nervous on flights. So many times I've had a laptop out, and they offer me a drink, and pour from a can into a wide topped cup. I usually just ask for the can to minimize possible spills. Tea is obviously a different situation, but I'm never confident enough to drink something like that on an airplane.
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Post traumatic stress disorder, depression, anxiety and panic attacks over spilt hot water?

Gotta be kidding me.......
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Old Nov 13, 12, 10:40 pm   #5
 
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Post traumatic stress disorder, depression, anxiety and panic attacks over spilt hot water?

Gotta be kidding me.......
You ought to see the crap people put into Worker's Comp suits. A sore finger has the same effects.

I blame the carrion sharks, er, lawyers.
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Old Nov 13, 12, 10:57 pm   #6
 
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Sounds like a graduate of the Quebecois who sued for the "Sprite" incident on AC. Ban them from flying with such stupidity.

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Edmonton woman sues Air Canada over ‘scalding’ water spill

I wonder if the other passenger was named in lawsuit too?

These lawsuits always bother me, don't tea and coffee usually involve hot water? is it not common sense that hot water can burn? Is there not a responsibility for individual, it is not like the FA was providing service with malice!
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Old Nov 13, 12, 11:39 pm   #7
 
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Its typically to much to just ask for tepid coffee, never mind hot
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OK... given that water visibly boils (and can be heated no further) at LOWER temperatures at LOWER presures/higher altitudes...

and.. given that a/c cabins are typically pressurised to..what? 8000 ft?

Just what temp is possible onboard?

And does it constitute "scalding"?
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Old Nov 14, 12, 6:06 am   #9
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I guess if one wants to sue, one can. But why does the press have to pick up these silly non-stories?
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OK... given that water visibly boils (and can be heated no further) at LOWER temperatures at LOWER presures/higher altitudes...

and.. given that a/c cabins are typically pressurised to..what? 8000 ft?

Just what temp is possible onboard?

And does it constitute "scalding"?
At 8000 ft, the boiling point of water is about 92 degrees C. Even if the liquid in question was cooler than that, it could well have caused scalding. Household water heaters, for example, have a recommended setting of 55 degrees C, which can cause scalding within four seconds, while 60 degrees C will cause third-degree burns in less than that.
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Old Nov 14, 12, 9:53 am   #11
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Edmonton woman sues Air Canada over ‘scalding’ water spill

I wonder if the other passenger was named in lawsuit too?

These lawsuits always bother me, don't tea and coffee usually involve hot water? is it not common sense that hot water can burn? Is there not a responsibility for individual, it is not like the FA was providing service with malice!
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..On Nov. 5, Rema Halabi was a passenger on a flight to San Francisco and ordered tea during the drink service, according to the claim. A stewardess then placed a cup of “scalding hot water” to make the tea on Halabi’s tray. The water fell into her lap when the passenger in front of her leaned back and jarred the tray...
How is AC to blame when all the FA did was to place the drink on tray? Shouldn't Rema have sued the other passenger instead?

I can see AC eventually serving tepid warm water in the future.
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Old Nov 14, 12, 9:55 am   #12
 
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FA puts hot cup on tray ... Smart person would put hand on cup to ensure hot water does not spill all over themselves..

At what point in life do people take responsibility for themselves? I hate people sometimes..
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Old Nov 14, 12, 10:21 am   #13
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Post traumatic stress disorder, depression, anxiety and panic attacks over spilt hot water?
Nope, not over spilt water, just the normal reaction flying AC sometimes...

plus headaches, high blood pressure, with occasional gastro, diarrhea, hallucinations, strained voice and empty pocket book syndrome.
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Old Nov 14, 12, 10:24 am   #14
 
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Post traumatic stress disorder, depression, anxiety and panic attacks over spilt hot water?

Gotta be kidding me.......
And you forgot, rude FA
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Old Nov 14, 12, 10:35 am   #15
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How is AC to blame when all the FA did was to place the drink on tray? Shouldn't Rema have sued the other passenger instead?

I can see AC eventually serving tepid warm water in the future.


The passenger business is with the airline. She would have no status suing another passenger. That would be for AC to pursue.

(Not that I support the silliness.)
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