I wonder if the other passenger was named in lawsuit too?
These lawsuits always bother me, don't tea and coffee usually involve hot water? is it not common sense that hot water can burn? Is there not a responsibility for individual, it is not like the FA was providing service with malice!
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Originally Posted by 7E7
These lawsuits always bother me, don't tea and coffee usually involve hot water? is it not common sense that hot water can burn? Is there not a responsibility for individual, it is not like the FA was providing service with malice!
There's hot and then there's scalding hot and the temperature and it being served without a lid seem to be the basis of the lawsuit.
BTW while the passenger may be from YEG the flight surely wasn't as there are no nonstop AC mainline flights from here to SFO.
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That's what made the difference in the McDonald's case many years ago. The coffee was at a temperature that would have been unsafe to consume.
I'm not sure about in this case. Either way, I'm always nervous on flights. So many times I've had a laptop out, and they offer me a drink, and pour from a can into a wide topped cup. I usually just ask for the can to minimize possible spills. Tea is obviously a different situation, but I'm never confident enough to drink something like that on an airplane.
I wonder if the other passenger was named in lawsuit too?
These lawsuits always bother me, don't tea and coffee usually involve hot water? is it not common sense that hot water can burn? Is there not a responsibility for individual, it is not like the FA was providing service with malice!
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OK... given that water visibly boils (and can be heated no further) at LOWER temperatures at LOWER presures/higher altitudes...
and.. given that a/c cabins are typically pressurised to..what? 8000 ft?
Just what temp is possible onboard?
And does it constitute "scalding"?
At 8000 ft, the boiling point of water is about 92 degrees C. Even if the liquid in question was cooler than that, it could well have caused scalding. Household water heaters, for example, have a recommended setting of 55 degrees C, which can cause scalding within four seconds, while 60 degrees C will cause third-degree burns in less than that.
I wonder if the other passenger was named in lawsuit too?
These lawsuits always bother me, don't tea and coffee usually involve hot water? is it not common sense that hot water can burn? Is there not a responsibility for individual, it is not like the FA was providing service with malice!
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..On Nov. 5, Rema Halabi was a passenger on a flight to San Francisco and ordered tea during the drink service, according to the claim. A stewardess then placed a cup of “scalding hot water” to make the tea on Halabi’s tray. The water fell into her lap when the passenger in front of her leaned back and jarred the tray...
How is AC to blame when all the FA did was to place the drink on tray? Shouldn't Rema have sued the other passenger instead?
I can see AC eventually serving tepid warm water in the future.