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Old Nov 12, 12, 6:53 am   #1
 
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Less Threshold eUpgrades in 2013

Has anyone noticed that threshold rewards of eupgrades is going to drop in 2013?

Now: https://www.aircanada.com/en/aeropla...eupgrades.html

2013: http://www.aircanada.com/en/aeroplan...threshold.html

Highlights:
* Elites get 50% less eupgrades at 60K threshold
* SEs get about 20% less eupgrades
* 300K and 400K mile threshold is now 40 eupgrades rather than 30

I hope AC lowers the eupgrade requirements for 2013 too but I highly doubt it.

I don't like the drastic lowering of eupgrades. But I guess if you choose eupgrades for all your benefits in SE, you start off with 5 more than 2012.

Does this affect you?
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Old Nov 12, 12, 7:16 am   #2
 
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SE's only get 12 credits and on top of that only 2 ore than Elite50/75K?

And then Threshold Gifts are given to Elite50/75K before SE's?

Unless the amount of credits is coming down from 14/17 for O/S credits one way this will be another kick in the balls.

And if they dont just means another Z/P fare on another operator because of the AC games.


They must be dropping the required credits requirements.
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Old Nov 12, 12, 7:22 am   #3
 
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They must be dropping the required credits requirements.
Surely you jest?

Actually, they have dropped the requirements for certain flights by adding an under-500 mile category but they've dramatically increased them for ultra long haul flights. The details are here.
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Old Nov 12, 12, 7:29 am   #4
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They must be dropping the required credits requirements.
I cannot imagine that happening.

Also, note that the number of credits you get initially has gone up a bit, so the decrease is not huge.

Still, my guess is, they want to cut down on upgrades on Tango Plus. Probably too many credits chasing to few seats, hence some unhappiness in the lower ranks. They want you to spend more, on more expensive fares.

Or in other words, the threshold for bottom feeders has just been moved up.
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Old Nov 12, 12, 7:33 am   #5
 
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@Tax Dude Thanks for the link to the new eupgrade table. I should've added that. Though the new table doesn't benefit since i usually book non-M Tango Plus and flights less than 500 miles have usually been on non-AC metal or a DASH-8.

Interesting how they've added a new 11001 mi + level.

@Stranger i only noticed a 5 eupgrade increase at initial. How are you calculating it as not huge?
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Old Nov 12, 12, 7:47 am   #6
 
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Hasn't this all been discussed before? I already knew all this.
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Old Nov 12, 12, 7:53 am   #7
 
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Surely you jest?

Actually, they have dropped the requirements for certain flights by adding an under-500 mile category but they've dramatically increased them for ultra long haul flights. The details are here.
Sure the numbers are high, but getting upgrades from these lower fare classes on these ultra long haul flights is largely a futile exercise anyway don't ya think?
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Old Nov 12, 12, 8:58 am   #8
 
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Interesting how they've added a new 11001 mi + level.
32 credits?

That would affect alot of traffic on the East coast Canada to Australia.

Crack heads.
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Old Nov 12, 12, 9:01 am   #9
 
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As we have seen for the last years another blow to the Super Elite benefits. Now with a 20% decrease in the e-credits.
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Old Nov 12, 12, 9:08 am   #10
 
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32 credits?

That would affect alot of traffic on the East coast Canada to Australia.
Nope. Even YYT-SYD is less than 11,000 miles when measure "direct", which is how they do it.
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Old Nov 12, 12, 9:26 am   #11
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Nope. Even YYT-SYD is less than 11,000 miles when measure "direct", which is how they do it.
So is there any AC route that is affected?

Only people traveling from Asia to South America on AC perhaps?

Anyway, what would be the rationale/motivation for them to introduce this category?
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Old Nov 12, 12, 9:33 am   #12
 
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Nope. Even YYT-SYD is less than 11,000 miles when measure "direct", which is how they do it.
Except you can't get from YYT to SYD on an 'international' flight

I assume if you did want to go from St John's to Sydney, you would need the requisite credits for the 3131 domestic miles YYT to YVR (4 or 10 for T+), plus the 12 or 17 credits required for the YVR-SYD leg?
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Old Nov 12, 12, 10:18 am   #13
 
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Except you can't get from YYT to SYD on an 'international' flight

I assume if you did want to go from St John's to Sydney, you would need the requisite credits for the 3131 domestic miles YYT to YVR (4 or 10 for T+), plus the 12 or 17 credits required for the YVR-SYD leg?
Air Canada determines # of eupgrade credits required by looking at the distance between YYT to SYD, which is under 11,000 miles - not by individual segment lengths.
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Old Nov 12, 12, 10:22 am   #14
 
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Less Threshold eUpgrades in 2013

It's to stop LHR/SYD folks
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Old Nov 12, 12, 10:53 am   #15
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It's to stop LHR/SYD folks
Makes sense. How vindictive of them to introduce this to get even with half a dozen nutcases who would fly LHR-SYD on AC though Canada...

Seems the culture never changes. Still way too many too expensive middle managers trying to find excuses to justify their existence?
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