Air Canada Segment Runs
#31
Join Date: May 2012
Location: YYC
Programs: AC*A, WS Gold
Posts: 25
I'm still confused. If I look for YYC-YWG on ExpertFlyer, I see the following routings:
1. YYC-YEA-YXE-YQR-YWG
2. YYC-YXE-YQR-YWG
3. YYC-YEA-YQR-YXE-YWG
4. YYC-YQR-YXE-YWG
When I search on AC's website, however, I see connections through both YVR and YEG. I don't see YVR or YEG as a valid connection for any of the fares. What am I missing?
1. YYC-YEA-YXE-YQR-YWG
2. YYC-YXE-YQR-YWG
3. YYC-YEA-YQR-YXE-YWG
4. YYC-YQR-YXE-YWG
When I search on AC's website, however, I see connections through both YVR and YEG. I don't see YVR or YEG as a valid connection for any of the fares. What am I missing?
#32
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Canada
Programs: AC E50K (*G), Westjet Gold
Posts: 788
I'd do the moncton one- more segments, without having to go through customs and having to explain why it is that you're flying such a strange route....I once checked in for YVR-YYC-YEG and had the agent ask "Would you rather just go on the direct flight?"....imagine the look on her face when I said "no thanks, I'll take the flight with a two hour layover in Calgary".....
I usually make status off segments and am always surprised how quickly I can jump levels with segments- this year, I'm going from qualifying for prestige (25) to elite lite (35) within a month (One YEG-YYC-YVR return, one YEG-YYC-YLW return, and one YEG-YYC return).....Just funny that 3 trips is all its taking to go from prestige to getting lounge access, prioirty services, etc.
I usually make status off segments and am always surprised how quickly I can jump levels with segments- this year, I'm going from qualifying for prestige (25) to elite lite (35) within a month (One YEG-YYC-YVR return, one YEG-YYC-YLW return, and one YEG-YYC return).....Just funny that 3 trips is all its taking to go from prestige to getting lounge access, prioirty services, etc.
#33
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: YFC
Programs: AC*SE100K; Marriott Titanium; NEXUS
Posts: 1,523
I'm still confused. If I look for YYC-YWG on ExpertFlyer, I see the following routings:
1. YYC-YEA-YXE-YQR-YWG
2. YYC-YXE-YQR-YWG
3. YYC-YEA-YQR-YXE-YWG
4. YYC-YQR-YXE-YWG
When I search on AC's website, however, I see connections through both YVR and YEG. I don't see YVR or YEG as a valid connection for any of the fares. What am I missing?
1. YYC-YEA-YXE-YQR-YWG
2. YYC-YXE-YQR-YWG
3. YYC-YEA-YQR-YXE-YWG
4. YYC-YQR-YXE-YWG
When I search on AC's website, however, I see connections through both YVR and YEG. I don't see YVR or YEG as a valid connection for any of the fares. What am I missing?
#34
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: YYZ, YYJ, ZRH
Programs: AC MM
Posts: 430
Jeepers, the airline ought to give you a gilt-edged SuperElite card and a Purple Heart if you earn SE by segments rather than by miles.
I've already re-qualified for SE this year - with 17 segments flown, all in J. That's about 17 more airplane trips than I would voluntarily fly (on any airline) if I had any control over my business travel.
#36
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: YYZ
Programs: ACMM SE100K; *G
Posts: 1,526
I'm still confused. If I look for YYC-YWG on ExpertFlyer, I see the following routings:
1. YYC-YEA-YXE-YQR-YWG
2. YYC-YXE-YQR-YWG
3. YYC-YEA-YQR-YXE-YWG
4. YYC-YQR-YXE-YWG
When I search on AC's website, however, I see connections through both YVR and YEG. I don't see YVR or YEG as a valid connection for any of the fares. What am I missing?
1. YYC-YEA-YXE-YQR-YWG
2. YYC-YXE-YQR-YWG
3. YYC-YEA-YQR-YXE-YWG
4. YYC-YQR-YXE-YWG
When I search on AC's website, however, I see connections through both YVR and YEG. I don't see YVR or YEG as a valid connection for any of the fares. What am I missing?
#37
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Canada
Programs: *G
Posts: 2,304
I think I have posted before that SE by segments is really quite straightforward - 2 segments a week, every week, is 104 - that leaves almost 5 weeks off. But of course if it is all on AC Express between stations with no MLL and no J, SE is somewhat useless.
#38
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: YQR
Programs: NEXUS; alas, no status anymore.
Posts: 1,181
United flies it as part of YXE-YQR-ORD, ORD-YQR-YXE but while it's listed in Air Canada's timetable, tickets cannot be purchased for the YQR-YXE and vice versa routes.
#40
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: YFC
Programs: AC*SE100K; Marriott Titanium; NEXUS
Posts: 1,523
YQM can be had on an L fare for $500 a/i return YTZ-YUL-YHZ-YQM-YHZ-YUL-YTZ. 15% codes are fairly easy to come by now with Delta running a promo and this would bring it down to $450 a/i
#41
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: YYZ and YVR
Programs: AC*SE100K, SPG Plat Ambassador, HHonor Gold, Marriot Silver, Hertz President's Circle, NEXUS, ABTC
Posts: 13
My question is where are you booking to get this price? AC.com only shows the 2 segment (YTZ-YUL-YQM) run, with a higher price (unless you're booking tango), and expedia/orbitz, etc only seem to show this run in Tango (P and E class?)
Thanks!
#42
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: YFC
Programs: AC*SE100K; Marriott Titanium; NEXUS
Posts: 1,523
Hi I'm new here, first 3 months in a travel-intensive job, but short-haul so far, so trying to make E*75 on segments, gonna come up about 9 short so interested in this YTZ-YQM run.
My question is where are you booking to get this price? AC.com only shows the 2 segment (YTZ-YUL-YQM) run, with a higher price (unless you're booking tango), and expedia/orbitz, etc only seem to show this run in Tango (P and E class?)
Thanks!
My question is where are you booking to get this price? AC.com only shows the 2 segment (YTZ-YUL-YQM) run, with a higher price (unless you're booking tango), and expedia/orbitz, etc only seem to show this run in Tango (P and E class?)
Thanks!
OK, so I looked online and I can find an L fare return for: $523.47 ($517.82 through YTZ). If you get a discount code from Delta Hotels (you need to stay with them), you can get another 15% off the base fare. Sample, bookable itin through ac.com is:
AC408
Toronto, Pearson Int'l (YYZ)
Terminal 1
Montreal, Trudeau (YUL)
Thu Nov-15 11:00 12:09 5hr40 E90 Tango Plus, L
AC75141
Montreal, Trudeau (YUL)
Moncton (YQM)
Thu Nov-15 15:10 17:40 DH4 Tango Plus, L
AC75271
Moncton (YQM)
Montreal, Trudeau (YUL)
Thu Nov-15 18:10 18:47 5hr05 DH4 Tango Plus, L
AC429
Montreal, Trudeau (YUL)
Toronto, Pearson Int'l (YYZ)
Terminal 1
Thu Nov-15 21:00 22:15 320 Tango Plus, L
So once you find the fare on the date you want, you have to use Expertflyer or KVS or another similar program to find a 3- leg intinerary where L>0 on all of the flights you really want that day, i.e. YTZ-YUL-YHZ-YQM-YHZ-YUL-YTZ.
Then call Air Canada and have them switch the flights to the ones you want (which they should do for free)... just say that the routing you want wasn't available online.
Last edited by YQMer; Oct 1, 2012 at 3:49 pm
#43
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: YYZ and YVR
Programs: AC*SE100K, SPG Plat Ambassador, HHonor Gold, Marriot Silver, Hertz President's Circle, NEXUS, ABTC
Posts: 13
First of all, welcome to FT!! (and all of our madness and rantings...)
OK, so I looked online and I can find an L fare return for: $523.47 ($517.82 through YTZ). If you get a discount code from Delta Hotels (you need to stay with them), you can get another 15% off the base fare. Sample, bookable itin through ac.com is:
AC408
Toronto, Pearson Int'l (YYZ)
Terminal 1
Montreal, Trudeau (YUL)
Thu Nov-15 11:00 12:09 5hr40 E90 Tango Plus, L
AC75141
Montreal, Trudeau (YUL)
Moncton (YQM)
Thu Nov-15 15:10 17:40 DH4 Tango Plus, L
AC75271
Moncton (YQM)
Montreal, Trudeau (YUL)
Thu Nov-15 18:10 18:47 5hr05 DH4 Tango Plus, L
AC429
Montreal, Trudeau (YUL)
Toronto, Pearson Int'l (YYZ)
Terminal 1
Thu Nov-15 21:00 22:15 320 Tango Plus, L
So once you find the fare on the date you want, you have to use Expertflyer or KVS or another similar program to find a 3- leg intinerary where L>0 on all of the flights you really want that day, i.e. YTZ-YUL-YHZ-YQM-YHZ-YUL-YTZ.
Then call Air Canada and have them switch the flights to the ones you want (which they should do for free)... just say that the routing you want wasn't available online.
OK, so I looked online and I can find an L fare return for: $523.47 ($517.82 through YTZ). If you get a discount code from Delta Hotels (you need to stay with them), you can get another 15% off the base fare. Sample, bookable itin through ac.com is:
AC408
Toronto, Pearson Int'l (YYZ)
Terminal 1
Montreal, Trudeau (YUL)
Thu Nov-15 11:00 12:09 5hr40 E90 Tango Plus, L
AC75141
Montreal, Trudeau (YUL)
Moncton (YQM)
Thu Nov-15 15:10 17:40 DH4 Tango Plus, L
AC75271
Moncton (YQM)
Montreal, Trudeau (YUL)
Thu Nov-15 18:10 18:47 5hr05 DH4 Tango Plus, L
AC429
Montreal, Trudeau (YUL)
Toronto, Pearson Int'l (YYZ)
Terminal 1
Thu Nov-15 21:00 22:15 320 Tango Plus, L
So once you find the fare on the date you want, you have to use Expertflyer or KVS or another similar program to find a 3- leg intinerary where L>0 on all of the flights you really want that day, i.e. YTZ-YUL-YHZ-YQM-YHZ-YUL-YTZ.
Then call Air Canada and have them switch the flights to the ones you want (which they should do for free)... just say that the routing you want wasn't available online.
#44
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: YYT
Programs: AC E35; SPG Gold; National Exec; Enterprise Plus Plat
Posts: 12
YUL-SFO 12 hour segment 'milk run': lookin' good or any problems?
I'm a lowly P looking to earn my way up to 'a higher Altitude' on segments. I have a YUL-SFO trip coming up and am considering a 5 segment routing, with what seems like decent connections, not too much time on uncomfortable planes (CRJ, DH3; I like E90s), and enough time at YVR for US border crossing.
My question for all you experts is: does this look okay or is there something ridiculous about this that that I'm not seeing? Travel date is late October, so I'm hoping weather is not likely a big problem (if it is, all bets are off!). Also, I will have to check a bag (definitely too much for carry on). Any observations or suggestions welcome! Thanks.
AC8987 YUL-YOW 06:05 - 06:44 CRJ
AC193 YOW-YEG 07:55 - 10:12 E90
AC8141 YEG-YYC 11:00 - 11:52 DH3
AC215 YYC-YVR 13:15 - 13:45 E90
AC562 YVR-SFO 15:45 - 18:00 E90
My question for all you experts is: does this look okay or is there something ridiculous about this that that I'm not seeing? Travel date is late October, so I'm hoping weather is not likely a big problem (if it is, all bets are off!). Also, I will have to check a bag (definitely too much for carry on). Any observations or suggestions welcome! Thanks.
AC8987 YUL-YOW 06:05 - 06:44 CRJ
AC193 YOW-YEG 07:55 - 10:12 E90
AC8141 YEG-YYC 11:00 - 11:52 DH3
AC215 YYC-YVR 13:15 - 13:45 E90
AC562 YVR-SFO 15:45 - 18:00 E90
#45
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: YUL
Programs: AC Altitude -.006k
Posts: 895
I'm a lowly P looking to earn my way up to 'a higher Altitude' on segments. I have a YUL-SFO trip coming up and am considering a 5 segment routing, with what seems like decent connections, not too much time on uncomfortable planes (CRJ, DH3; I like E90s), and enough time at YVR for US border crossing.
My question for all you experts is: does this look okay or is there something ridiculous about this that that I'm not seeing? Travel date is late October, so I'm hoping weather is not likely a big problem (if it is, all bets are off!). Also, I will have to check a bag (definitely too much for carry on). Any observations or suggestions welcome! Thanks.
AC8987 YUL-YOW 06:05 - 06:44 CRJ
AC193 YOW-YEG 07:55 - 10:12 E90
AC8141 YEG-YYC 11:00 - 11:52 DH3
AC215 YYC-YVR 13:15 - 13:45 E90
AC562 YVR-SFO 15:45 - 18:00 E90
My question for all you experts is: does this look okay or is there something ridiculous about this that that I'm not seeing? Travel date is late October, so I'm hoping weather is not likely a big problem (if it is, all bets are off!). Also, I will have to check a bag (definitely too much for carry on). Any observations or suggestions welcome! Thanks.
AC8987 YUL-YOW 06:05 - 06:44 CRJ
AC193 YOW-YEG 07:55 - 10:12 E90
AC8141 YEG-YYC 11:00 - 11:52 DH3
AC215 YYC-YVR 13:15 - 13:45 E90
AC562 YVR-SFO 15:45 - 18:00 E90
I assume you are getting a reasonable fare and if you can book it, great, IMO. You may even want to try YUL-YOW-YYZ-YEG-YYC-YVR-SFO if you can make it work. ITA is not being helpful this evening, so I can't say how possible it is.
In the end, you get your status on miles, if you keep routings like this!
Cheers,
Whitey in YUL