Jun 23, 2013, 10:09 pm
Last edit by: imverge
Aeroplan fuel surcharges (YQ) collected on the following airlines:
Air Canada (AC)
Lufthansa (LH)
All Nippon Airways (NH)
Asiana (OZ)
Thai (TG)
Austrian Airlines (OS)
LOT Polish Airlines (LO)
TAP Portugal (TP)
Adria Airways (JP)
Aeroplan fuel surcharges (YQ) NOT charged on these airlines:
Aegean Airlines (A3)
Air China (CA)
Air India (AI)
Air New Zealand (NZ)
Avianca/TACA (AV)
Brussels (SN)
Copa (CM)
Croatia (OU)
EgyptAir (MS)
Ethiopian (ET)
Eva Air (BR)
SAS (SK)
Shenzhen (ZH)
Singapore (SQ)
South African Airways (SA)
Swiss (LX)
Turkish (TK)
United (UA)
*Keep in mind AC charges YQ for the entire trip sometimes, so if you do YYZ-PVG-MEL on AC/CA or YYZ-NRT-AKL on AC/NZ, even though the last two segments are not supposed to be charged YQ - AC will charge YQ based on distance of YYZ-MEL/AKL.
Aeroplan's last official statement on fuel surcharges including an important statement that all fuel surcharges are requested by AC, and not by AE or the operating carriers: All fuel surcharge amounts are applied by Aeroplan on behalf of the ticketing carrier and are passed through directly to the ticketing carrier.
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Air Canada (AC)
Lufthansa (LH)
All Nippon Airways (NH)
Asiana (OZ)
Thai (TG)
Austrian Airlines (OS)
LOT Polish Airlines (LO)
TAP Portugal (TP)
Adria Airways (JP)
Aeroplan fuel surcharges (YQ) NOT charged on these airlines:
Aegean Airlines (A3)
Air China (CA)
Air India (AI)
Air New Zealand (NZ)
Avianca/TACA (AV)
Brussels (SN)
Copa (CM)
Croatia (OU)
EgyptAir (MS)
Ethiopian (ET)
Eva Air (BR)
SAS (SK)
Shenzhen (ZH)
Singapore (SQ)
South African Airways (SA)
Swiss (LX)
Turkish (TK)
United (UA)
*Keep in mind AC charges YQ for the entire trip sometimes, so if you do YYZ-PVG-MEL on AC/CA or YYZ-NRT-AKL on AC/NZ, even though the last two segments are not supposed to be charged YQ - AC will charge YQ based on distance of YYZ-MEL/AKL.
Aeroplan's last official statement on fuel surcharges including an important statement that all fuel surcharges are requested by AC, and not by AE or the operating carriers: All fuel surcharge amounts are applied by Aeroplan on behalf of the ticketing carrier and are passed through directly to the ticketing carrier.
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carriers with little or no fuel surcharges for award travel
Jul 18, 2016, 5:53 pm
#166
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: YQB
Programs: AC SE
Posts: 2,139
United availability?
I am trying to book YQB-EWR roundtrip and want the UA direct flight. Leaving on Friday Oct 28th and returning on Wednesday Nov 2nd. I see availability on UA.com for award flights on UA3856 outbound and UA4431 return. Yet when I called AE, the agent told me he doesn't see availability on UA3856.
I am fairly new to this but my understanding was that if you see availability on UA.com, you were good. What am I not getting right here?
I am fairly new to this but my understanding was that if you see availability on UA.com, you were good. What am I not getting right here?
Jul 18, 2016, 6:01 pm
#167
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SFO
Programs: AC SE MM, BA Gold, SQ Silver, Bonvoy Tit LTG, Hyatt Glob, HH Diamond
Posts: 44,330
I am trying to book YQB-EWR roundtrip and want the UA direct flight. Leaving on Friday Oct 28th and returning on Wednesday Nov 2nd. I see availability on UA.com for award flights on UA3856 outbound and UA4431 return. Yet when I called AE, the agent told me he doesn't see availability on UA3856.
I am fairly new to this but my understanding was that if you see availability on UA.com, you were good. What am I not getting right here?
I am fairly new to this but my understanding was that if you see availability on UA.com, you were good. What am I not getting right here?
If the cost is 25k one way, it's not saver.
It would be 10k for the UA non-stop.
Jul 18, 2016, 6:19 pm
#168
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: YYZ
Programs: UA1K2MM ACMME50 SQPPS HHDiamond Marriott Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 4,391
I am trying to book YQB-EWR roundtrip and want the UA direct flight. Leaving on Friday Oct 28th and returning on Wednesday Nov 2nd. I see availability on UA.com for award flights on UA3856 outbound and UA4431 return. Yet when I called AE, the agent told me he doesn't see availability on UA3856.
I am fairly new to this but my understanding was that if you see availability on UA.com, you were good. What am I not getting right here?
I am fairly new to this but my understanding was that if you see availability on UA.com, you were good. What am I not getting right here?
There is availability for 10K on UA 4431. It is XN only. For United Elite members. There is also availability for 10K outbound. Again XN only.
For *A members availability has to be in X.
If you know a UA Elite they can book it for 10K each way.
Taxes 7.40 each way.
Jul 19, 2016, 5:30 am
#169
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: YQB
Programs: AC SE
Posts: 2,139
What you are seeing on UA.COM is Anytime award. YN, can only be booked using UA miles. For 25K each way.
There is availability for 10K on UA 4431. It is XN only. For United Elite members. There is also availability for 10K outbound. Again XN only.
For *A members availability has to be in X.
If you know a UA Elite they can book it for 10K each way.
Taxes 7.40 each way.
There is availability for 10K on UA 4431. It is XN only. For United Elite members. There is also availability for 10K outbound. Again XN only.
For *A members availability has to be in X.
If you know a UA Elite they can book it for 10K each way.
Taxes 7.40 each way.
Oct 28, 2016, 12:01 pm
#170
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Kan@da
Programs: Anything with sweet spots
Posts: 1,790
For the transatlantic J flight that I want, no availability on the carries that have no fuel surcharge while Lufthansa seats are plenty, but the Aeroplan crooks want $700 fuel surcharge, compared to United MileagePlus $88 USD.
We non-SE Aeroplan members are being screwed so hard with these scamcharges
We non-SE Aeroplan members are being screwed so hard with these scamcharges
Last edited by MasterGeek; Oct 28, 2016 at 12:09 pm
Oct 28, 2016, 2:54 pm
#171
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For the transatlantic J flight that I want, no availability on the carries that have no fuel surcharge while Lufthansa seats are plenty, but the Aeroplan crooks want $700 fuel surcharge, compared to United MileagePlus $88 USD.
We non-SE Aeroplan members are being screwed so hard with these scamcharges
We non-SE Aeroplan members are being screwed so hard with these scamcharges
Oct 28, 2016, 3:09 pm
#172
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Join Date: Sep 2014
Programs: AC SE100K-1MM, NH, DL, AA, BA, Global Entry/Nexus, APEC..
Posts: 18,877
Correct.
In addition, as others have posted....one might also want to see the YQ LH charges on a paid ticket as well as Aeroplan tickets. It's not exactly coffee money. If one doesn't want to pay YQ, then fly airlines with no YQ or low YQ. LH is not one of them.
Or use UA MP miles.
In addition, as others have posted....one might also want to see the YQ LH charges on a paid ticket as well as Aeroplan tickets. It's not exactly coffee money. If one doesn't want to pay YQ, then fly airlines with no YQ or low YQ. LH is not one of them.
Or use UA MP miles.
Oct 28, 2016, 5:56 pm
#173
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Correct.
In addition, as others have posted....one might also want to see the YQ LH charges on a paid ticket as well as Aeroplan tickets. It's not exactly coffee money. If one doesn't want to pay YQ, then fly airlines with no YQ or low YQ. LH is not one of them.
Or use significantly more UA MP miles.
In addition, as others have posted....one might also want to see the YQ LH charges on a paid ticket as well as Aeroplan tickets. It's not exactly coffee money. If one doesn't want to pay YQ, then fly airlines with no YQ or low YQ. LH is not one of them.
Or use significantly more UA MP miles.
I'd have a screenshot of United's site, but surprisingly, there's is erroring out.
But the equivalent flight is 110k miles and $80 USD.
$500 CAD is worth more than 40k miles to me. If I had the option of transferring my miles 1:1 to United for this booking, I would not.
Oct 28, 2016, 10:26 pm
#175
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Right, but he also made comments about the YQ and not being SE, which matters.
Either way, there is Jerry Hung's excellent thread....mentioned often and especially when posters lament about these charges.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...demptions.html
For the transatlantic J flight that I want, no availability on the carries that have no fuel surcharge while Lufthansa seats are plenty, but the Aeroplan crooks want $700 fuel surcharge, compared to United MileagePlus $88 USD.
We non-SE Aeroplan members are being screwed so hard with these scamcharges
We non-SE Aeroplan members are being screwed so hard with these scamcharges
Either way, there is Jerry Hung's excellent thread....mentioned often and especially when posters lament about these charges.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...demptions.html
Oct 29, 2016, 7:30 pm
#177
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: YOW
Programs: AC SE, FOTSG Platinum
Posts: 5,727
Oct 30, 2016, 1:13 am
#178
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Location: Kan@da
Programs: Anything with sweet spots
Posts: 1,790
I wish United was a partner of Amex Canad for points conversion.
Oct 30, 2016, 7:05 am
#179
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: YOW
Programs: AC SE, FOTSG Platinum
Posts: 5,727
BTW, it's entirely possible - easy, really - to get business-class flights from Canada to Europe on minimal surcharges, lots of us do it on a regular basis.
Read this, then try your booking again. Also understand that, like any other program, most of the good award seats are probably going to get snapped up early, so if you're upset that you can't get business-class YVR-FRA the week before Christmas, I feel bad for you son.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...demptions.html
It's a shame that United aren't among the transfer options, true, but I suspect if you went to them, you'd be back in a week complaining that they charge a higher fee for partner redemptions, or that their stop-over allowance isn't as generous as Aeroplan's. Each program has its pros and cons.
...but Amex MR has Canadian transfer partners on Star Alliance, Oneworld and Skyteam. Go check out BA's surcharges for a good laugh.
Oct 30, 2016, 8:55 am
#180
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: YVR to SEA
Posts: 2,535
But I have lots of Aeroplan points from Amex churning and Aeroplan promised me free flights and that I can get business class flights for only 110K points without disclosing the amount of carrier surcharges in advance
I wish United was a partner of Amex Canad for points conversion.
I wish United was a partner of Amex Canad for points conversion.
180k amex convert to 90k SPG
90k SPG convert to 270k Marriott
270k Marriott redeem for cheapest 7 night travel pack, which gives 132k (152k until November 30 with the transfer promo) United miles plus 7 nights at a category 5 hotel (feel free to discard the hotel, but if you can use even a few nights it's worth it)
That's as good as you're going to get