kaylla334

The fuel surcharge on YUL-NRT-YUL has been at 262$ (or 282? Can't remember) for weeks now and the prices haven't changed a penny since I started shopping 6 weeks ago, and then bam!

This morning it's at 406.76$

What the effing hell kinda bad april's fools joke is that?

*books on AA*

mkjr

that seems to be back to pre april 2009 level before the fan fare of them dropping it.

Air Koryo

What a bunch of garbage. Crude oil bumps up $2/bbl, and that translates to an extra $200+ for a flight.

illico

wow. that's insanely expensive.

EZESE

uhhhmmmm like that's a big surprise?

drdisaster

total surcharges YHZ to LHR (5 hour flight) are $550. Total return cost, $1400 in economy....
see me fly on pass to boston and fly AA in J for 1500 return. Only way to complain I guess is by booking somewhere else.

rankourabu

looks like they listened to us complaining that the fuel surcharges to Asia were lower than to Europe and it made no sense distance based.

I am glad AC listens to their customers

rehoult

It's all a game. However, you should feel free to join in: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/milea...ge-thread.html

kaylla334

Lol I have no idea what this thread does/what we're supposed to say in there.

I've tried over and over again to read a couple pages and I have exactly 0 idea what to do ^

yulred

AC and BA YQ on YYZ-LHR is now $330. Well, BA YQ is actually $314 but its accompanied by a $16 Security and Insurance charge rounding it off at that magical $330.

The increase of oil prices does, of course, warrants the approximately $80 increase on the fuel cost of each seat, compared to December ($250). After all, we all understand that the 20 % oil prices ( mid $90s to mid 110s) translates into a 33% in fuel costs for airlines.

And the nearly identical YQ's of two 'competitors' operating on the same route are proof of that. Could this be price-fixing? Not a chance.

Yeah, looks like supply to our country is so heavily constrained (relative to demand) that airlines can charge what they want and get away with it. AC prefers it that way, given that their fleet "expansion" is, well, modest (I m being polite) compared to other international airlines. It actually looks more like a renewal than an expansion, but, you know - Canadians don't actually like travelling. God knows consumer numbers in Canada won't go up if prices go down. We're different that way.

We might as well rejig our national anthem to reflect whats going on:

Air Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

CZBB

http://www.aircanada.com/en/agents_n...rge_110321.pdf

AC document to agents on new fuel surcharges to central america

tinchote

South America also doubled. The surcharge YQR-EZE was around 320 two weeks ago, and since a few days ago it is 640.

And they are so cocky that they are advertising EZE as cheap (at $1800 rt, which appears a $1000 in their ad) in their last email! Insane

tinchote

The figures in that document are not accurate (anymore?). I just started a booking YQR-EZE, and the fuel surcharge is $400.

The Lev

Of special note all of the "new" higher fuel surcharges for "Premium" travel. One more way of reducing the value of J awards and encouraging us to buy Y fares and upgrading instead of paying a premium surcharge.

Stranger

Two questions:

1. What is premium? I have noticed that at least for some routes, "surchargges" on latitude fares are the same as on Z/D/C/J.

2. Are the tariffs posted on aircanada.com consistent with current surcharges? (Admittedly on surcharges the documents is absolutely unreadeable. So not sure.)