Sep 4, 2014, 1:23 pm
Last edit by: jerryhung
It would help if every member could take a moment to ensure they are posting in the correct thread. This one is meant to be only for listing valid booked mini-RTW itineraries and not questions about booking mini-RTW which belong in this thread:
Mini RTW Questions
Newer members who are just coming to find the whole topic are likewise encouraged to read and pose their questions in this thread:
The Complete Newbie Guide/FAQ to the Air Canada Aeroplan Mini-RTW
Want to find the new MPM after 10/29/2014?
Aeroplan City Pair mileage (new pseudo-MPM) - FlyerTalk Forums
List of valid and booked Mini-RTW 2.0 (post-2014 version of this thread)
Mini RTW Questions
Newer members who are just coming to find the whole topic are likewise encouraged to read and pose their questions in this thread:
The Complete Newbie Guide/FAQ to the Air Canada Aeroplan Mini-RTW
Want to find the new MPM after 10/29/2014?
Aeroplan City Pair mileage (new pseudo-MPM) - FlyerTalk Forums
List of valid and booked Mini-RTW 2.0 (post-2014 version of this thread)
FAQ: List of valid and booked mini-RTW itineraries
Jul 27, 2015, 10:10 am
#2461
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,784
Backtracking routing wise, is allowed so along as you don't go over the new mpm.
Backtracking in terms of transiting the same airport twice on the same inbound or outbound is not allowed. Unless its the only routing available to get you to your destination or stopover.
While diminishing a lot of mini RTW's the new rules do allow the user to be a lot more creative with more practical/regional routings that otherwise would have been restricted by a regional published routing (which weren't all that generous) or maxing out at M5. New rules are also supposedly on the books to make european routings even more generous (but not Mini RTW) in the coming months.
Backtracking in terms of transiting the same airport twice on the same inbound or outbound is not allowed. Unless its the only routing available to get you to your destination or stopover.
While diminishing a lot of mini RTW's the new rules do allow the user to be a lot more creative with more practical/regional routings that otherwise would have been restricted by a regional published routing (which weren't all that generous) or maxing out at M5. New rules are also supposedly on the books to make european routings even more generous (but not Mini RTW) in the coming months.
Aeroplan making current rules more generous? sounds very unlike AP
Jul 27, 2015, 10:18 am
#2462
Suspended
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: YKF
Programs: AC Elite 50K, Amex AP Plat, Choice Privileges, National Exec Elite, Via Prefrence
Posts: 2,996
From what I've been told it will be a value add to the customer. It won't significantly affect AP's cost structure (given how they reimburse the Airlines) so it will follow the ever successful low cost/high value marketing strategy.
Jul 27, 2015, 12:54 pm
#2463
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SFO
Programs: AC SE MM, BA Gold, SQ Silver, Bonvoy Tit LTG, Hyatt Glob, HH Diamond
Posts: 44,316
I know it's a short flight, but better to set your expectations. My first experience in "J" was very disappointing
Aug 1, 2015, 6:09 am
#2464
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: YYZ
Posts: 1,666
Fresh booking today:
YYZ-ORD UA F
ORD-FRA LH F
FRA-HND LH F (23 hour stop)
HND-BKK TG F (20 hour stop)
BKK-SIN SQ J
SIN-DPS SQ J
DPS-SIN SQ J (20 hour stop)
SIN-HKG UA F (23 hour stop)
HKG-PEK CA J (7 day stopover, doing a tour in North Korea)
PEK-ICN CA J
ICN-FRA LH J **Change to F at T-14 - (6 month stopover for study abroad)
FRA-ORD UA F
ORD-YYZ AC J
215,000 miles + $1,008.10 (Came out a bit lower than I expected given the LH and TG segments)
YYZ-ORD UA F
ORD-FRA LH F
FRA-HND LH F (23 hour stop)
HND-BKK TG F (20 hour stop)
BKK-SIN SQ J
SIN-DPS SQ J
DPS-SIN SQ J (20 hour stop)
SIN-HKG UA F (23 hour stop)
HKG-PEK CA J (7 day stopover, doing a tour in North Korea)
PEK-ICN CA J
ICN-FRA LH J **Change to F at T-14 - (6 month stopover for study abroad)
FRA-ORD UA F
ORD-YYZ AC J
215,000 miles + $1,008.10 (Came out a bit lower than I expected given the LH and TG segments)
After some arguing I was able to cancel it without fee and did a fresh booking for the following less agonizing routing:
YYZ-PHL AC Y
PHL-FRA LH F (last of the 744 seat+bed combo flights - 15h layover FRA)
FRA-HKG LH F (21h layover HKG)
HKG-SIN SQ J
SIN-DPS SQ J
DPS-SIN SQ J
SIN-HKG UA F (23h layover HKG)
HKG-PEK CA J
PEK-ICN CA J
ICN-FRA LH F (6 month stopover)
FRA-ORD UA F
ORD-YYZ AC Y
The above was $1,211 CAD.
Aug 1, 2015, 6:42 am
#2465
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: YYZ
Programs: Aeroplan, Alaska, Marriott
Posts: 435
really?? USD?? any idea why...?
Aug 1, 2015, 7:21 am
#2466
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 73
Booked for next summer May-June 2016
YYZ-ORD AC J
ORD-NRT NH J (Stopover)
HND-HIJ NH Y
HIJ-ICN OZ J (24hr layover)
ICN-HKG OZ J
HKG-SIN SQ J
SIN-MEL SQ J (Turnaround)
MEL-SIN SQ J (Stopover)
SIN-TPE BR J
TPE-IST TK J (8 hour layover)
IST-YYZ TK J
Taxes and fees were ~$500 per person
YYZ-ORD AC J
ORD-NRT NH J (Stopover)
HND-HIJ NH Y
HIJ-ICN OZ J (24hr layover)
ICN-HKG OZ J
HKG-SIN SQ J
SIN-MEL SQ J (Turnaround)
MEL-SIN SQ J (Stopover)
SIN-TPE BR J
TPE-IST TK J (8 hour layover)
IST-YYZ TK J
Taxes and fees were ~$500 per person
Aug 1, 2015, 1:11 pm
#2467
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SFO
Programs: AC SE MM, BA Gold, SQ Silver, Bonvoy Tit LTG, Hyatt Glob, HH Diamond
Posts: 44,316
I can't speak for that case, but I have a US address on my account, so taxes and fees are always charged in USD.
Aeroplan has told me they can't change it though - it's forced based on my address.
Whereas with Air Canada, I can ask them to charge it in whatever currency I want (which I've done in the past for various non-nefarious reasons).
Aeroplan has told me they can't change it though - it's forced based on my address.
Whereas with Air Canada, I can ask them to charge it in whatever currency I want (which I've done in the past for various non-nefarious reasons).
Aug 1, 2015, 2:06 pm
#2468
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: YEG
Posts: 3,717
Is this because your credit cards are also tied to that address?
If you have a canadian credit card with a canadian address just change the address for the duration of the booking, once it and the fees go through change it back.
If you have a canadian credit card with a canadian address just change the address for the duration of the booking, once it and the fees go through change it back.
Aug 1, 2015, 8:23 pm
#2469
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: YYZ
Posts: 1,666
I've had a US address on the account for a short time and changed it back to my Canadian one 2 days before I made the booking. It seems that online, Aeroplan was pricing out in CAD for me but somehow the agent's side had lagged in updating the country of the account. Very strange issue. 
As another aside:
I got the e-mail itinerary for my new ticket and discovered that the SIN-DPS segment was booked 2 days later than I asked for (supposed to be a 2 hour connection in SIN.) Called in and rectified the error for no fee - otherwise I would have managed to slip an itinerary with 3 stopovers + destinations right under Aeroplan's nose.
As another aside:
I got the e-mail itinerary for my new ticket and discovered that the SIN-DPS segment was booked 2 days later than I asked for (supposed to be a 2 hour connection in SIN.) Called in and rectified the error for no fee - otherwise I would have managed to slip an itinerary with 3 stopovers + destinations right under Aeroplan's nose.
Aug 3, 2015, 7:58 pm
#2470
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 211
I've had a US address on the account for a short time and changed it back to my Canadian one 2 days before I made the booking. It seems that online, Aeroplan was pricing out in CAD for me but somehow the agent's side had lagged in updating the country of the account. Very strange issue.
As another aside:
I got the e-mail itinerary for my new ticket and discovered that the SIN-DPS segment was booked 2 days later than I asked for (supposed to be a 2 hour connection in SIN.) Called in and rectified the error for no fee - otherwise I would have managed to slip an itinerary with 3 stopovers + destinations right under Aeroplan's nose.
As another aside:
I got the e-mail itinerary for my new ticket and discovered that the SIN-DPS segment was booked 2 days later than I asked for (supposed to be a 2 hour connection in SIN.) Called in and rectified the error for no fee - otherwise I would have managed to slip an itinerary with 3 stopovers + destinations right under Aeroplan's nose.
One question from me: does the "10 segments" limit still exist?? I am surprised that you could book 13 segments, then it seems you could even easily change it to 11 segments .
Last edited by tonywush; Aug 3, 2015 at 10:49 pm
Aug 8, 2015, 11:04 am
#2471
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: YVR
Programs: OZ Diamond, Jiffypark Manhattan Gold
Posts: 4,485
I love lookin at these, always makes me jealous though haven't had the time to do a trip like this that is also worth the money/points. Can't say I would've wanted to spend the $1200 though it is a great set of flights. I hadn't thought of using it for international study or anything like that, seems brilliant. Have a big blowout trip before hunkering down and grinding. I THOUGHT though you couldn't cross the same city twice? I had some routings I looked at that would grey out all of the next flight choices and the only reason I could come up with was crossing the same city as they should've easily been within MPM (at least I thought so).
haven't had the time to do a trip like this that is also worth the money/points. Can't say I would've wanted to spend the $1200 though it is a great set of flights. I hadn't thought of using it for international study or anything like that, seems brilliant. Have a big blowout trip before hunkering down and grinding. I THOUGHT though you couldn't cross the same city twice? I had some routings I looked at that would grey out all of the next flight choices and the only reason I could come up with was crossing the same city as they should've easily been within MPM (at least I thought so).
Aug 8, 2015, 5:51 pm
#2472
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 625
I THOUGHT though you couldn't cross the same city twice? I had some routings I looked at that would grey out all of the next flight choices and the only reason I could come up with was crossing the same city as they should've easily been within MPM (at least I thought so).
Aug 9, 2015, 4:09 pm
#2473
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: YVR
Programs: OZ Diamond, Jiffypark Manhattan Gold
Posts: 4,485
Thanks joeags, learn something new every day here.
Aug 9, 2015, 5:09 pm
#2474
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: YVR
Programs: Non-status bottomfeeder
Posts: 827
I THOUGHT though you couldn't cross the same city twice? I had some routings I looked at that would grey out all of the next flight choices and the only reason I could come up with was crossing the same city as they should've easily been within MPM (at least I thought so).
I had to play with dates so much to get a "valid" route out of CTS. Most of the availability to get out of Japan is ex-TYO and sometimes ex-KIX. Finding a CTS-TPE or CTS-PEK flight was tough.
Then my next trip coming up is south America via the Caribbean. Most of the small Caribbean islands have problems with backtracking. Not every island is served by both CM and AV. We were forced to go LIM-BOG-AUA/AUA-PTY-onwards simply because so many other islands had no availability directly back to north america or always forced a return back to BOG or PTY (where you just were and would be considered backtracking).
The more you know
Aug 9, 2015, 5:33 pm
#2475
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: YVR
Programs: OZ Diamond, Jiffypark Manhattan Gold
Posts: 4,485
Makes for some interesting "forced" choices. My last true MiniRTW went YVR-NRT-CTS/CTS-TPE-CDG//ZRH-YUL-YVR
I had to play with dates so much to get a "valid" route out of CTS. Most of the availability to get out of Japan is ex-TYO and sometimes ex-KIX. Finding a CTS-TPE or CTS-PEK flight was tough.
Then my next trip coming up is south America via the Caribbean. Most of the small Caribbean islands have problems with backtracking. Not every island is served by both CM and AV. We were forced to go LIM-BOG-AUA/AUA-PTY-onwards simply because so many other islands had no availability directly back to north america or always forced a return back to BOG or PTY (where you just were and would be considered backtracking).
The more you know
I had to play with dates so much to get a "valid" route out of CTS. Most of the availability to get out of Japan is ex-TYO and sometimes ex-KIX. Finding a CTS-TPE or CTS-PEK flight was tough.
Then my next trip coming up is south America via the Caribbean. Most of the small Caribbean islands have problems with backtracking. Not every island is served by both CM and AV. We were forced to go LIM-BOG-AUA/AUA-PTY-onwards simply because so many other islands had no availability directly back to north america or always forced a return back to BOG or PTY (where you just were and would be considered backtracking).
The more you know