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Old Sep 11, 13, 6:55 am   #1
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Business-Class Lie-Flat-Seats from 2015

Aer Lingus CEO Christoph Müller announced this over on Aero Telegraph:

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Ab 2015 bieten wir in der Business-Class Lie-Flat-Sitze an. Dann ziehen wir endgültig mit allen gleich, die über den Nordatlantik fliegen und eine First Class haben.
(From 2015 we will offer Business-Class Lie-Flat-Seats. We will then be equal to all those offering offering first class on transatlantic flights)
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Old Sep 11, 13, 7:34 am   #2
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Interesting to note that he says that, while Aer Lingus has somewhat missed the boat as regards staking their claim for a larger piece of the transatlantic market, they are seeing an increasing number of passengers connecting from cities that have direct connections - and specifically mentions Paris.
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Old Sep 12, 13, 9:21 am   #3
 
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Will they introduce this product on their A330s or wait until they get their A350s around that time frame?
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Old Sep 12, 13, 10:28 am   #4
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The A350s aren't due to start arriving until sometime in 2016.
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Their j class badly needs an upgrağe compared to its European rivals and the prices they charge
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Their j class badly needs an upgrağe compared to its European rivals and the prices they charge
Do you mean just in terms of the seats not being lie flat?

I'm relatively new to J class travel but on recent flights BA J LHR-HKG, CX J HKG-LHR (new business seat) and EI J DUB-BOS, EI won hands down on everything, the only proviso being that I wouldn't want the EI seat on a 12 hour overnight flight, but then they don't currently do that!
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Business-Class Lie-Flat-Seats from 2015

EI prices are relatively cheap for TATL J. So god knows what porsche911 is talking about. And the service is fantastic. I never had an empty glass or went hungry.
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Old Sep 14, 13, 7:11 am   #8
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Their j class badly needs an upgrağe compared to its European rivals and the prices they charge
Disgagree, EI's current business is no worse than SK, AF, or the LH slope. Service tends to me better than most of those.
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Disgagree, EI's current business is no worse than SK, AF, or the LH slope. Service tends to me better than most of those.
Ok but compared to vs and BA ?
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It's a lesser hard product, but look at market it's serving and the premium traffic they can attract.

You're not really comparing like with like.
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Old Sep 21, 13, 7:07 pm   #11
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I believe that the current seat 'can' go flat, so it seems to me that they will end up keeping the current seat but reprogram them for full flat. Probably the most cost efficent way forward for them.
Seems as if a Y+ offering will have to wait for the A350
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Old Sep 24, 13, 2:42 pm   #12
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Their j class badly needs an upgrağe compared to its European rivals and the prices they charge
Maybe it's different ex-Dublin, but from other places the prices are cheap. £1400 in J LON-JFK without a Saturday night stay requirement is a bargain in my book.

Staff & catering way better than BA J, plus the advantage of pre-clearance in Dublin, too.

For the price I'd jump to take them again.
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Old Feb 24, 14, 11:53 am   #13
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And a quick "preview" from today's 2013 financial results presentation

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And a quick "preview" from today's 2013 financial results presentation

vs current A330
Lie Flat Sleeper Seats with 58" seat pitch, 21" width on our A330 aircraft.
http://www.aerlingus.com/inflight-ex...haul-business/


Does anyone know whether these wet-leased 757 have full lie-fat?
I know it's the NEW cabin, but not sure about Business class
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Old Feb 26, 14, 9:45 am   #15
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vs current A330
So from the photographic evidence, the "new" seat is not lie flat at all - and does not even recline!

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Does anyone know whether these wet-leased 757 have full lie-fat?
I know it's the NEW cabin, but not sure about Business class
There will be no lie-flat seats on any EI aircraft until 2015.

http://www.aircontractors.com/soluti...in-and-seating
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