Lounge Access with A3*G Card but non-*G status on boarding pass
#31
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: YYC
Programs: AC*E50K, UA*S, A3*S, NEXUS, Accor Platinum, MLife Platinum
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Anyone have any experience crediting to A3 after check in with US Airways? I wanted to obtain my first class upgrade as a preferred member before I changed to A3. However, after I checked in at the kiosk, I was unable to change FFN to A3 (both at kiosk and online under flight reservations). Is there some window period that you have before you get shut out of making any additional changes to your reservation? Few days prior to my flight I was still able to change my traveler's information regarding FF#. Although, I did notice that when I changed the FF#, my reservation disappeared from US Airways online account.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/us-ai...itinerary.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/us-ai...de-clears.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/star-...embership.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/us-ai...itinerary.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/us-ai...-co-miles.html
Specifically this post (I am the OP referred to in the quote):
I have searched exhaustively and cannot find a single recent (ie. past ~2 years) report on FT of someone successfully making a FFP change while flying a US itinerary.
The only recommendation seems to be to try to aggressively prevent a FF# from ever being attached to the reservations, make sure the BPs are blank, and then submit for retro-credit after your trip, trying to use your *A card from another carrier to obtain benefits on US during your trip. I intend on trying this the next trip I take on US, but honestly, I expect to have the FF# of the FFP I'm trying to use to obtain a benefit be forced onto the record by some US agent at some point in the trip. If it happens while I try to access a lounge, I may try and fight it because that seems to be abuse of *A specific lounge access rules, but if I lost the fight, I'd just not enter the lounge, rather than have my FF# changed (or try to enter a lounge mid-itinerary after it would be 'against US' policy' to change the FF#).
If you have any success in changing your FF# with US, please post your experience.
#32
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Zurich, Switzerland; Manila, Philippines
Programs: LX M&M FTL, Aegean Gold, Mabuhay Miles Platinum
Posts: 90
Could you clarify this a little? It sounds like the BPs all have your A3 number on them, but you are somehow crediting then to MM via retro-claim?
Specifically, how are you preventing the segments from auto-crediting to A3? Is it simply that these segments do not credit (as "0" miles or some such) and you then retro-credit to MM?
I once had an orphan segment on Copa with an itinerary otherwise on CO/UA and was unable to get the segment credited anywhere (MP) because the rest of the itinerary was credited to AC. Retro-claiming didn't work, but that could be something with MP's system
Specifically, how are you preventing the segments from auto-crediting to A3? Is it simply that these segments do not credit (as "0" miles or some such) and you then retro-credit to MM?
I once had an orphan segment on Copa with an itinerary otherwise on CO/UA and was unable to get the segment credited anywhere (MP) because the rest of the itinerary was credited to AC. Retro-claiming didn't work, but that could be something with MP's system
#33
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: BOS
Posts: 519
I had a flight with US airways starting with a Lufthansa segment. I originally had my LH # in there as I had planned to make FTL last year. I decided about a week before departure to credit the miles to A3 instead, since it would bring me most of the way to *G.
However, at check-in, Lufthansa's stupid systems switched it all back to M&M without asking me anything, and I noticed on my BP that printed at the airport. LH said they couldn't fix it.
I called and tweeted US a few times while I was underway, and they eventually put back my A3 number on the US airways flights. Their flights all credited correctly.
Still trying to get Lufthansa to credit the miles from LH metal flights to A3.
#34
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Seattle, WA
Programs: A3 Gold
Posts: 37
For what it's worth, I flew SEA-PHL-SEA on US last week. The reservation had my UA FFP number. SEA-PHL was credited to UA. On the return, I asked the agent at the gate to change the BP to A3. No problems other than he asked me for the airline's code. Miles posted 4 days after the flight.
#35
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: YYC
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I did a few weeks ago, in a special circumstance, but it's technically possible.
I had a flight with US airways starting with a Lufthansa segment. I originally had my LH # in there as I had planned to make FTL last year. I decided about a week before departure to credit the miles to A3 instead, since it would bring me most of the way to *G.
However, at check-in, Lufthansa's stupid systems switched it all back to M&M without asking me anything, and I noticed on my BP that printed at the airport. LH said they couldn't fix it.
I called and tweeted US a few times while I was underway, and they eventually put back my A3 number on the US airways flights. Their flights all credited correctly.
Still trying to get Lufthansa to credit the miles from LH metal flights to A3.
I had a flight with US airways starting with a Lufthansa segment. I originally had my LH # in there as I had planned to make FTL last year. I decided about a week before departure to credit the miles to A3 instead, since it would bring me most of the way to *G.
However, at check-in, Lufthansa's stupid systems switched it all back to M&M without asking me anything, and I noticed on my BP that printed at the airport. LH said they couldn't fix it.
I called and tweeted US a few times while I was underway, and they eventually put back my A3 number on the US airways flights. Their flights all credited correctly.
Still trying to get Lufthansa to credit the miles from LH metal flights to A3.
Did you use any benefits on the itinerary? (ie. baggage allowance or lounge access, etc.) You don't mention having status with MM or any other program, in which case it wouldn't violate US policy.
Asking US to change the FF# on their operated flights is a slightly different case, since it is not as if you are asking US to make a change after check-in with THEM or after their portion of the itinerary has started. They probably consider your point of origin with them, as opposed to the origin on another carrier.
Last edited by Nicodemus75; Jan 7, 2013 at 12:53 pm
#36
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: YYC
Programs: AC*E50K, UA*S, A3*S, NEXUS, Accor Platinum, MLife Platinum
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For what it's worth, I flew SEA-PHL-SEA on US last week. The reservation had my UA FFP number. SEA-PHL was credited to UA. On the return, I asked the agent at the gate to change the BP to A3. No problems other than he asked me for the airline's code. Miles posted 4 days after the flight.
Also, you don't mention having any status with *A, in which case you wouldn't have exercised any benefits while flying US (extra bags, etc.) so if that's the case changing the FF# probably wouldn't violate the policy.
#37
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 20
Guess the only way to transition into A3*G is to part ways with current preferred status on US huh?
#38
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 12
Use SAS gold for benefit but credit to A3
Hi all,
How can i check in with my A3 card but use SAS gold for extra luggage at LHR, the flight operated by Air China.
I need to make sure all miles are credit in my A3 card, because after this segment I will be A3 Gold, but in the meantime one more luggage is also important to me as well.
Any advise?
Thanks in advance.
How can i check in with my A3 card but use SAS gold for extra luggage at LHR, the flight operated by Air China.
I need to make sure all miles are credit in my A3 card, because after this segment I will be A3 Gold, but in the meantime one more luggage is also important to me as well.
Any advise?
Thanks in advance.
#39
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: DTW/MBS
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similar to this thread:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/aegea...other-ffp.html
this thread is about using A3 *G but trying to get the miles to another program. there's a couple options discussed in there.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/aegea...other-ffp.html
this thread is about using A3 *G but trying to get the miles to another program. there's a couple options discussed in there.
#40
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 12
similar to this thread:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/aegea...other-ffp.html
this thread is about using A3 *G but trying to get the miles to another program. there's a couple options discussed in there.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/aegea...other-ffp.html
this thread is about using A3 *G but trying to get the miles to another program. there's a couple options discussed in there.
#41
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SIN 5 days out of 7
Programs: BD*G, A3*G, BA-S, Accor Gold, IHG Amb
Posts: 5,505
Just bear in mind that there is mention in that thread of "just change the number at the gate"; whilst this may be a readily do-able in airports in the USA, I've not found this works so readily in places like LHR. I've found I've had to either make the change in the lounge (if the lounges have the facility to re-print boarding passes) or at a check-in desk (after I've actually checked-in).
#42
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: LON BCN SYD
Programs: BA, OZ, A3, VA, VS, DL, QF, former BD and others
Posts: 1,074
You can change the number in most *A lounges even if the lounge does not have the facility to reprint - but YMMV - I had one lounge change one sector but not the next on a 2-sector flight, while another wrote the numbers down but clearly forgot to do it before take off as my A3 account received the miles. So better to change on check-in, that way you can be sure where the miles will credit as you see it printed on BP.
In some airports you can also get a BP printed/change FF nos at a transfer desk - useful for those multi-sector flights where the mileage credit from different sectors needs to be split.
Most *G carries seem OK to give *G benefits on sighting the card on check0in even if you are crediting another carrier - I've found LH, A3, SQ, NZ all OK with this personally, though there are reports that some US carriers don't like this.. If only they were all like NZ and LH and could accommodat different entries in FQTS and FQTV which is a tidier way to do it.
In some airports you can also get a BP printed/change FF nos at a transfer desk - useful for those multi-sector flights where the mileage credit from different sectors needs to be split.
Most *G carries seem OK to give *G benefits on sighting the card on check0in even if you are crediting another carrier - I've found LH, A3, SQ, NZ all OK with this personally, though there are reports that some US carriers don't like this.. If only they were all like NZ and LH and could accommodat different entries in FQTS and FQTV which is a tidier way to do it.
#44
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: LAX
Programs: AA Plat, UA Gold
Posts: 609
this probably belongs in the UA forum, but I'm going to ask it here because others may be in the same boat/have had this experience before here.. I've read on this thread and others that its possible to change the FFP between segments.
Has this ever been done for UA? I have several sub-500 mile flights already booked (all at the end of the itinerary (e.g., MCI-SFO-LAX). Has anyone had any experience switching this to A3.
I would want to credit the beginning of those flights to UA (in this case the MCI-SFO leg) both for the mileage, as well as the option to do SDC.
However, if this is possible, I would like to get to the 3000 miles for A3 blue/Silver basically for free this way. Then I can wait for a good US Air deal to put me into the gold =)
Has this ever been done for UA? I have several sub-500 mile flights already booked (all at the end of the itinerary (e.g., MCI-SFO-LAX). Has anyone had any experience switching this to A3.
I would want to credit the beginning of those flights to UA (in this case the MCI-SFO leg) both for the mileage, as well as the option to do SDC.
However, if this is possible, I would like to get to the 3000 miles for A3 blue/Silver basically for free this way. Then I can wait for a good US Air deal to put me into the gold =)
#45
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: EWR/PHL/JFK
Programs: A3*G, AS MVPG, UA, AA
Posts: 592
this probably belongs in the UA forum, but I'm going to ask it here because others may be in the same boat/have had this experience before here.. I've read on this thread and others that its possible to change the FFP between segments.
Has this ever been done for UA? I have several sub-500 mile flights already booked (all at the end of the itinerary (e.g., MCI-SFO-LAX). Has anyone had any experience switching this to A3.
I would want to credit the beginning of those flights to UA (in this case the MCI-SFO leg) both for the mileage, as well as the option to do SDC.
However, if this is possible, I would like to get to the 3000 miles for A3 blue/Silver basically for free this way. Then I can wait for a good US Air deal to put me into the gold =)
Has this ever been done for UA? I have several sub-500 mile flights already booked (all at the end of the itinerary (e.g., MCI-SFO-LAX). Has anyone had any experience switching this to A3.
I would want to credit the beginning of those flights to UA (in this case the MCI-SFO leg) both for the mileage, as well as the option to do SDC.
However, if this is possible, I would like to get to the 3000 miles for A3 blue/Silver basically for free this way. Then I can wait for a good US Air deal to put me into the gold =)
the flight was on July 8. the miles for it have yet to post to either FF account. other flights from the same day have already posted to my UA account.