Community
Wiki Posts
Search

A3 Star Gold dilemma

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 3, 2012, 5:33 am
  #1  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: USA
Programs: UA Global Services, TSA Pre✓, Marriott Gold, Hilton Gold, IHG Platinum
Posts: 1,115
A3 Star Gold dilemma

I will likely be able to qualify for Star Gold thru A3 this year and have a few questions.

1. Since Ive been building miles with UA for some years, I only want to credit a few flights to A3 to qualify for Gold. Since its only about 20,000 for an ORD based flier, that can't do much for me, especially as A3 doesn't allow miles to be used for Star Alliance upgrades. Is getting Star Hold worth 19,000 orphaned miles?

2. Will Star Gold on A3 get me the same benefits on UA/CO that they give their elites? (free economy plus, and unlimited upgrades)

3. I have an LX segment in march from ZRH to ORd which should qualify me for instant Star Silver. The "fare basis" LX gave me is WICSWIUS. What is the one letter booking code so I could determine of my miles will credit at 50% or 100%
BA_Jfan is offline  
Old Jan 3, 2012, 6:23 am
  #2  
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: England
Programs: BD*G, A3*G, Alaska G, LH, HHonors, Accor, Priority Club; Tufty Club Diamond
Posts: 80
Originally Posted by BA_Jfan
I will likely be able to qualify for Star Gold thru A3 this year and have a few questions.

1. Since Ive been building miles with UA for some years, I only want to credit a few flights to A3 to qualify for Gold. Since its only about 20,000 for an ORD based flier, that can't do much for me, especially as A3 doesn't allow miles to be used for Star Alliance upgrades. Is getting Star Hold worth 19,000 orphaned miles?
It is for me. I don't have Amex Platinum and I like lounge access a lot, it makes airports much more bearable. Plus (see below) it can convey some soft benefits like early boarding. And - sometimes, in my experience - economy plus, but not officially - see next reply.

2. Will Star Gold on A3 get me the same benefits on UA/CO that they give their elites? (free economy plus, and unlimited upgrades)
Not upgrades, no. Not a sniff. But I've been comped into E+ before now, by phoning up and asking nicely (on the basis that I'm 6'7")

3. I have an LX segment in march from ZRH to ORd which should qualify me for instant Star Silver. The "fare basis" LX gave me is WICSWIUS. What is the one letter booking code so I could determine of my miles will credit at 50% or 100%
It's usually the first letter, I believe, but others may correct that.
fulhamish is offline  
Old Jan 3, 2012, 6:24 am
  #3  
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: MD/DC
Programs: Hilton Diamond, IHG Platinum, Marriott Titanium, TK Gold
Posts: 1,536
Originally Posted by BA_Jfan
1. Since Ive been building miles with UA for some years, I only want to credit a few flights to A3 to qualify for Gold. Since its only about 20,000 for an ORD based flier, that can't do much for me, especially as A3 doesn't allow miles to be used for Star Alliance upgrades. Is getting Star Hold worth 19,000 orphaned miles?
That is something only you can answer - how much you value the lounge access and the no-fee bags?

Originally Posted by BA_Jfan
2. Will Star Gold on A3 get me the same benefits on UA/CO that they give their elites? (free economy plus, and unlimited upgrades)
No. Those are reserved for UA/CO elites.

Originally Posted by BA_Jfan
3. I have an LX segment in march from ZRH to ORd which should qualify me for instant Star Silver. The "fare basis" LX gave me is WICSWIUS. What is the one letter booking code so I could determine of my miles will credit at 50% or 100%
I believe it is W and will get 100%. But others more experienced with Swiss booking code might correct me on that.
MD/DC Flyer is offline  
Old Jan 3, 2012, 6:29 am
  #4  
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: England
Programs: BD*G, A3*G, Alaska G, LH, HHonors, Accor, Priority Club; Tufty Club Diamond
Posts: 80
In addition to my answer above, I'm currently a BMI *G. With all the uncertainty about that program I'm doing exactly what you're considering - I'm putting 20k miles into A3 primarily for Status. Once I have that, I'm going to work out what's best based on what's actually happened to BMI diamond club, but my judgement is that 20k-or-so orphaned miles is worth it for the status.
fulhamish is offline  
Old Jan 3, 2012, 8:58 am
  #5  
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: SIN
Posts: 849
Originally Posted by MD/DC Flyer
That is something only you can answer - how much you value the lounge access and the no-fee bags?



No. Those are reserved for UA/CO elites.



I believe it is W and will get 100%. But others more experienced with Swiss booking code might correct me on that.
Booking code W on swiss will get 100% miles as referenced by http://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbonu...n-miles/#SWISS
lowjhg is offline  
Old Jan 3, 2012, 10:21 am
  #6  
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: SEA/ORD/ADB
Programs: TK ELPL (*G), AS 100K (OWE), BA Gold (OWE), Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Plat, IHG Plat
Posts: 7,763
Originally Posted by BA_Jfan

2. Will Star Gold on A3 get me the same benefits on UA/CO that they give their elites? (free economy plus, and unlimited upgrades)
No upgrades to F, but when a seat is available and I ask nicely, I haven't missed an exit row/E+ yet. I generally have better luck on US than UACO though.
PVDtoDEL is online now  
Old Jan 3, 2012, 10:41 am
  #7  
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 114
Originally Posted by PVDtoDEL
No upgrades to F, but when a seat is available and I ask nicely, I haven't missed an exit row/E+ yet. I generally have better luck on US than UACO though.
Just "Excuse me. I'm *G and I'd be grateful if you have an E+ seat available"? During checkin? At the gate? Via reservation phone?
Plusflyer is offline  
Old Jan 3, 2012, 10:42 am
  #8  
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: MD/DC
Programs: Hilton Diamond, IHG Platinum, Marriott Titanium, TK Gold
Posts: 1,536
Originally Posted by PVDtoDEL
No upgrades to F, but when a seat is available and I ask nicely, I haven't missed an exit row/E+ yet. I generally have better luck on US than UACO though.
Once you've reached *G, sometime the lounge attendants will do it for you. Although, it will be quite hard to find a E+/exit row seat by the time you'll get to the lounge.
MD/DC Flyer is offline  
Old Jan 3, 2012, 11:41 am
  #9  
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: ORD
Programs: UA MM, AA PPro
Posts: 1,480
Your 19,000 miles don't have to be completely orphaned. You could use them for Hertz rentals, for example.
legalalien is offline  
Old Jan 3, 2012, 12:23 pm
  #10  
Marriott Contributor Badge
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 9,677
Originally Posted by BA_Jfan
I will likely be able to qualify for Star Gold thru A3 this year and have a few questions.

1. Since Ive been building miles with UA for some years, I only want to credit a few flights to A3 to qualify for Gold. Since its only about 20,000 for an ORD based flier, that can't do much for me, especially as A3 doesn't allow miles to be used for Star Alliance upgrades. Is getting Star Hold worth 19,000 orphaned miles?

2. Will Star Gold on A3 get me the same benefits on UA/CO that they give their elites? (free economy plus, and unlimited upgrades)

3. I have an LX segment in march from ZRH to ORd which should qualify me for instant Star Silver. The "fare basis" LX gave me is WICSWIUS. What is the one letter booking code so I could determine of my miles will credit at 50% or 100%
1. As a UA flyer, the only benefit from A3 *G status would be domestic lounge access (assuming you already have *G w/UA) and possibly award redemption.

2. No and no. Relying on the goodwill of clueless agents is more gambling than a strategy, especially when they can simply sell you that E+ seat for a minor fee.

3. W
izzik is offline  
Old Jan 3, 2012, 1:01 pm
  #11  
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: England
Programs: BD*G, A3*G, Alaska G, LH, HHonors, Accor, Priority Club; Tufty Club Diamond
Posts: 80
Originally Posted by izzik
1. As a UA flyer, the only benefit from A3 *G status would be domestic lounge access (assuming you already have *G w/UA) and possibly award redemption.
I'm assuming the OP doesn't have UA *G and is looking to use A3 to get this status more easily. I personally wouldn't be sure of flying enough miles in a year to get UA *G, with my flying limited to 3-4 economy TATLs per year and a bunch of european short haul flights in the cheapest available seats. Whereas with A3 I can make *G in any given year with room to spare.

Hence from my own point of view 19K miles for *G with A3 is a really great option, because I certainly value worldwide lounge access and additional perks as being worth it. It's the nice little things like being able to get my other half into lounges when we travel on holiday.
fulhamish is offline  
Old Jan 3, 2012, 7:20 pm
  #12  
Marriott 10+ BadgeHilton Contributor Badge
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Switzerland
Programs: Bonvoy LT Gold, IHG Gold, BAEC Silver, TP Silver
Posts: 1,495
If you put 25,000 miles in your A3 account, then you will be able to redeem a free North America to North America return ticket on a *A carrier according to A3's redemption table.
http://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbonu...n/spend-miles/

So these will not be lost or "orphaned". Or as legalalien said earlier, you can use them for a car rental, 20k miles get you a 7 days rental for a small car (conditions and limited mileage apply).
enelym1978 is offline  
Old Jan 4, 2012, 3:53 am
  #13  
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: SEA/ORD/ADB
Programs: TK ELPL (*G), AS 100K (OWE), BA Gold (OWE), Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Plat, IHG Plat
Posts: 7,763
Originally Posted by Plusflyer
Just "Excuse me. I'm *G and I'd be grateful if you have an E+ seat available"? During checkin? At the gate? Via reservation phone?
Phone is a waste of time, but ask at the airport. If checkin person says no, thank them and go to the lounge. If lounge person says no, then thank them and go to the gate. If the gate agent says no, then you're stuck I suppose.

It's following the "if you don't like the answer, hang up and call back" philosophy except that it is in person.
It's not worth it for a 1 hour commuter hop, but on transcons it makes a world of difference.
PVDtoDEL is online now  
Old Jan 4, 2012, 11:25 am
  #14  
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: LON BCN SYD
Programs: BA, OZ, A3, VA, VS, DL, QF, former BD and others
Posts: 1,074
I would go for A3 *G if you would meet the required number of miles in a year's flying or less. It is a good set of benefits to have and (at the moment) fairly easy to maintain.
wyvern is offline  
Old Jan 4, 2012, 3:56 pm
  #15  
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: DC
Programs: DL gold; UA - 1k; AA gold; Marriott Platinum; Hyatt Diamond; SPG gold; Groupon Falcon;
Posts: 747
Originally Posted by legalalien
Your 19,000 miles don't have to be completely orphaned. You could use them for Hertz rentals, for example.
IIRC A3 requires only 25000 for North America to the Caribbean, which is a bit of an anomoly.
jfhscott is offline  


Contact Us - Manage Preferences - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.