Club des Actionnaires Master Thread
Apr 27, 2012, 3:27 pm
#32
Join Date: May 2009
Location: HKG (mind in YYZ)
Programs: MPC Green, AC Tangerine :)
Posts: 1,102
I'm in France. Took me almost 2 weeks to open account via Internet at local brooker. Then I bought 1 (yes one) share of Accor, 2E fee. Had to call the brooker then to ask to put this share in some special "mode" (they call it here "Au nominatif administré"). Otherways you have to buy 50shares of Accor.
Once done, I went on monday to Accor site http://www.accor.com/fr/finance/espa.../adhesion.html and I completed simple form (even if you dont speak french you should be able to do it).
However no response after 2-3 days and no confirmation email.
So I sent them also an email (to comfi[at]accor.com). And voila, in 24hours I got a response saying that my new card is on the way!
BTW english version of Accor site does not have this form to become member of this shareholders club!
So Yes, if you can get an account opened here in France you can have this platinum card for 2E fee to buy 1 share + 25E value of one share
Once done, I went on monday to Accor site http://www.accor.com/fr/finance/espa.../adhesion.html and I completed simple form (even if you dont speak french you should be able to do it).
However no response after 2-3 days and no confirmation email.
So I sent them also an email (to comfi[at]accor.com). And voila, in 24hours I got a response saying that my new card is on the way!
BTW english version of Accor site does not have this form to become member of this shareholders club!
So Yes, if you can get an account opened here in France you can have this platinum card for 2E fee to buy 1 share + 25E value of one share
in French:
Article 2 - Conditions d’adhésion au Club des Actionnaires Accor - Tout actionnaire détenant au moins 50 actions au porteur ou une action au nominatif peut devenir membre du Club. L’adhésion au Club des Actionnaires Accor est gratuite. Elle est valable tant que le membre du Club satisfait ŕ ces conditions d’adhésion. L’adhésion au Club des actionnaires Accor donne droit ŕ une carte de membre du Club. Cette carte est nominative et permet de bénéficier des services et des offres, réservés aux membres du Club des Actionnaires Accor.
google translated in English:
Article 2 - Membership requirements at Accor Shareholders Club - All shareholders holding at least 50 bearer shares or one registered share may join the Club. Club membership is free Accor Shareholders. It is valid as long as the member of the Club meets these conditions for membership. Club membership entitles shareholders to an Accor membership card club. This card is personal and can benefit from the services and offers, for members of Accor Shareholders Club.
btw you can get google to translate the french website for you
May 4, 2012, 12:50 am
#34
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Berlin
Programs: BA Gold; Accor Plat; IHG Diamond-Amb; Meliá & HH & Marriott Gold
Posts: 5,447
Jun 26, 2012, 8:58 am
#35
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: KNO, ID
Programs: KF Gold, QF Gold, MR Platinum, Accor Platinum, IHG Platinum
Posts: 613
Which broker is the best to buy Accor shares ? I mean..in term of responsiveness and commission fee. I don't have any idea since I'm living in South East Asia.
Jun 26, 2012, 9:05 am
#36
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Berlin
Programs: BA Gold; Accor Plat; IHG Diamond-Amb; Meliá & HH & Marriott Gold
Posts: 5,447
There isn't a simple one-size-fits-all answer to this. Factors include the language(s) you're comfortable with and how easy it is to comply with reporting requirements in the country or countries in which you're a tax resident.
Perhaps start by finding out what fees you'd have to pay to buy them through your house bank (or usual brokerage, if you have one)?
Perhaps start by finding out what fees you'd have to pay to buy them through your house bank (or usual brokerage, if you have one)?
Mar 3, 2014, 9:12 am
#38
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Paris, France
Programs: Flying Blue (LTPE) All (Gold)
Posts: 1,519
Mar 3, 2014, 11:58 am
#39
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Berlin
Programs: BA Gold; Accor Plat; IHG Diamond-Amb; Meliá & HH & Marriott Gold
Posts: 5,447
Note that even though Platinum status doesn't expire for CdA members, hotels can still see some (all?) of your account activity. If you've had a period of inactivity they may need nudging to give you Platinum benefits (i.e. even more than some hotels need to be nudged anyway).
[I think that this happened to me last year at the Sofitel Heathrow T5. Mrs IMH and I are both Platinum members via CdA, but we'd been crediting stays to her account and mine hadn't seen any activity for nearly a year.]
[I think that this happened to me last year at the Sofitel Heathrow T5. Mrs IMH and I are both Platinum members via CdA, but we'd been crediting stays to her account and mine hadn't seen any activity for nearly a year.]
Last edited by IMH; Mar 16, 2014 at 1:49 pm Reason: Clearer phrasing (I think).
Mar 16, 2014, 1:30 pm
#41
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Switzerland
Programs: Hyatt DIA, IHG PLT AMB, TK Elite Gold, SPG Gold
Posts: 111
called my bank agent (credit suisse) on friday and told him that I want to buy one accor share, but it has to be the one in my name called Au nominatif administré...
well they searched half an hour through the stockmarket and told me they just can find the normal.... So i have to read a bit more about stock markets to figure out how to get the special one in my name... If there is no solution.. Will buy 50 normal ones :/
well they searched half an hour through the stockmarket and told me they just can find the normal.... So i have to read a bit more about stock markets to figure out how to get the special one in my name... If there is no solution.. Will buy 50 normal ones :/
Mar 19, 2014, 2:57 pm
#42
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Paris
Programs: IHG Platinum, Le club Accorhotel Gold, Club Carlson Gold, Etihad Guest Silver, BA Silver
Posts: 8
The share "au nominatif" is a standard share, it is not a special category. It means that the bank needs to register this share with Accor and the share will then be managed by Accor's bank.
It generally cost some money to transfer a share to "au nominatif" so i would suggest you simply buy 50 shares.
It generally cost some money to transfer a share to "au nominatif" so i would suggest you simply buy 50 shares.
Mar 20, 2014, 12:44 am
#43
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Paris, France
Programs: A3*G, Accor ALL Gold
Posts: 597
The share "au nominatif" is a standard share, it is not a special category. It means that the bank needs to register this share with Accor and the share will then be managed by Accor's bank.
It generally cost some money to transfer a share to "au nominatif" so i would suggest you simply buy 50 shares.
It generally cost some money to transfer a share to "au nominatif" so i would suggest you simply buy 50 shares.
I did it 3 months ago.
Mar 20, 2014, 7:51 am
#45
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Singapore
Programs: SPG LTP, HH D
Posts: 729
Difference between au porteur and nominatif?
For foreign (i.e. non-French) members of the Club des Actionnaires, what is the difference between les actions au porteur and those nominatives, especially from a fiscal point of view?
From my basic understanding of French shareholding, while les actions nominatives allow one the access to annual reports and even dividends since you are identified to the company concerned, the downside is that the fiscal management is much more complicated?
It therefore seems to me that for non-France based members of the Club, it would be better (from a book-keeping point of view) to hold the shares au porteur instead?
From my basic understanding of French shareholding, while les actions nominatives allow one the access to annual reports and even dividends since you are identified to the company concerned, the downside is that the fiscal management is much more complicated?
It therefore seems to me that for non-France based members of the Club, it would be better (from a book-keeping point of view) to hold the shares au porteur instead?