Originally Posted by greggwiggins

Optimator is a doppelbock beer. There are similarities in that the sweetness of malt is the predominant flavor note of both Oktoberfest and doppelbock beers; the malt is more lightly roasted for an O'fest than for a doppelbock but either can have an amber to dark red color and low hop bitterness. The most notable difference between the two styles, especially when you try to stand up, is alcohol content.