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Old Dec 1, 2012, 8:28 am
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Temper blowout at LHR T5 - screeners lying or truthful?

Sorry for the length of this.... cliffs notes at the end for those who don't want to read it all.

So I had a very tight connection at LHR last night. I got off my flight in T5 C gates, and was departing also T5 C gates, but of course you need to take the train to the main terminal and back again.

So me and several others are running all the way. As we come up the escalators, a lady opens the ropes to a new screening area and ushers us in - which was much appreciated because there were only 2-3 people in line, vs 20-30 in each other area.

It went downhill from there.

We all unload our bags/shoes/laptops and the usual stuff, and a young girl pulls ALL of our bags and puts them on the table for the swabbing. I ask her if they are all there for secondary screening and she says yes, I look and see there are already 5+ bags waiting and a line of people waiting while a screener is laboriously taking every item out of the bag he is working on and swabbing. I ask if there is only one swabber and she says there is two, I ask if she could please check because there is only one, and we're all on the verge of missing our flight (until this time I was very polite). She appears irritated at being questioned and says "I don't know, whatever" and rolls her eyes and walks away. I say "excuse me?" and she replies that she doesn't need to answer to us and it will take as long as it takes.

I walk over to the screener doing the swabbing and ask him if he has a colleague here because we're all on the verge of missing our flights. I realize he is in the middle of an argument with another pax and appears to be doing a "go slow" move and swabbing *everything* as slowly as possible. He tells me he is not going to compromise security just because we are impatient. This really set me off as I was suggesting more help, not that he compromise the job. A verbal back and forth ensued with me highlighting that this theatre had failed to stop any real threats, and him claiming to the (irate at this point) group of passengers, that we have no idea how many incidents they have prevented, but he cannot tell us more because it's "classified". I demanded a manager come immediately.

At this point, a man behind me started to complain that I should "leave the Brits alone and if I want to be loud and bossy I should go home to my own country, the USA, where such people belong". This is amusing considering I am British, not American, and a nasty exchange ensued

At this point, there were 5 angry passengers all complaining to the screener/swabber guy, one passenger complaining to the angry passengers to "leave the Brits alone", 3 screeners who had ceased all interaction with the pax and were ignoring all comments, and one screener maintaining that none of us understood how important and serious their job is, etc.

The first pair of angry pax walked away (two women), and one of them pulled out her cell phone and took a picture. The swabber noticed this, stopped what he was doing, ran over to her and told her she had just broken the law and that he was going to get the police. She started to walk away and he *grabbed her arm* and said she was not going anywhere until the police came. I walked over and told him he had no right to touch ANYONE, EVER and that if she broke the law, his job is to notify police, not to be a self appointed police officer and that he has NO powers of detention.

I demanded he call a manager *right now*.

Few minutes later, manager arrives. Nice guy, but we couldn't communicate. I told him we just need alacrity and all will be OK. He just kept saying "we have a procedure and the more time all of you spend complaining the slower it goes". He was very apologetic, but I explained that while we appreciate the apologies, they are hollow and do not address the problem, and the best solution would be to add an additional swabber, or that he himself could jump in and the problem would be solved... and in the future, the young lady pulling bags aside should be more random, not just pull 5 or 6 in a row because the swabber was standing around doing nothing and there were not many pax in that security line. That's not random, that's "Oh, look, Bob is standing there doing nothing, let me just get a bunch of bags in queue for him".


It was really a bizarre scene... a lot of nasty words back and forth, and its lucky for all involved it did not turn into something physical (especially with the fool who seemed to think the Brits honor needed defended).




Cliffs notes: is it really illegal to take pictures of the screening area at T5? I asked the swabber what law she broke, and he refused to say. He said he cannot tell anything about security procedures. I said I am not asking about procedures, I am asking what law states that you cannot take photos at the screening area? He said "UK Law". I asked him to clarify *which* law - he must know if he knows it's illegal, and he just ignored me and went back to telling the girl she was in a lot of trouble. Of course, when the supervisor arrived, me and the girl pointed out the swabber was WAY out of line, and he told the girl she is free to go.

So apparently even if it is against the law, you can still do it and get away with it
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