Originally Posted by
calhk
If someone redeemed 172,000 tickets for 100,000 AA miles before the change
of terms and conditions, he or she could have used 100,000 miles to redeem for a saver business class award ticket to either Europe, Asia or South America, that would have otherwise costed $4000 to $5000. That's at least a $650 value for 28,000 tickets, or $895 for 38,500 tickets.
And here your logic fails again.
A $4000 or $5000 plane ticket is only worth the paper that it is printed on. Good luck finding somebody personally that you can buy that for and sell to them. And you know those online brokers? Check the airlines' Terms of Service again (Seeing as how you all hold that closer than your bible.). Brokers are against the TOS.
A Zune? $150 on eBay. A copy of Windows Vista Ultimate? $150+ on eBay... or closer to $300 if you know what you're doing. That's cold hard cash, not a flimsy piece of paper and a flight to somewhere that you wouldn't go anyways. And you'd better hope you've accumulated vacation days at your place of employment... although, for reasons I'm about to list, I somehow doubt that many of you are employed.
Each of the anagram games contains 35 words that needs to be entered, except in the case of the few "bugged" puzzles which contain a few less. We'll assume one types a word each second, as that is about as fast as the bots that actually entered the letters can actually enter without triggering the secondary speed captchas. 10 seconds to load a new puzzle, 35 seconds (again, a generous assumption, as no human will type exactly 1 word per second, and considering standard human deviation, you're likely to trigger the speed captcha at least once
unless you slow yourself down) per puzzle for entering words, and then 5 more seconds to submit the puzzle and click to start a new puzzle. 50 seconds per puzzle is a generous estimation for the overall time needed to complete a puzzle and begin a new one, but we'll operate under that assumption.
At 4300 points per every 2500 FF miles, you're looking at... 215 anagram games. 215 anagram games will be 10750 seconds, 179 minutes, or 2.98 hours (Rounded down in a few calculations, just to further prove my point.).
But, of course... 2500 FF miles won't get you anywhere, now, will it? Multiply those numbers by 10. Almost 30 hours for 25,000 FF miles.
One would think that between a job and a family (All you soccer moms here must have a family, now.), that 30 hours for some frequent flyer miles is a
little excessive. And, again, that's an extremely generous number, assuming that you sit in front of your computer while not distracted in any way.
Those who use bots to do these tasks allow the bots to work completely in the background. We enter a captcha every so often (Or simply delegate that task to one of
many websites that will enter captchas for you... 2000 captchas for $8 or so seems to be the norm.), but otherwise, we are completely free to focus on the more important things in life: Family, school, a job, etc.
You make it a point to indicate that you're
much further along in life than some of us. It seems to me that you just don't have anything to do with your time. But I must say, your grays are showing. Your time is counting down. You really shouldn't be so upset that we value our time more than you value yours. By using bots instead of entering all the answers by hand, I'm able to do quite well at college, spend time with my girlfriend, work a steady job, and get plenty of prizes from Club Live on the side.
Originally Posted by
Tiki
To sc4fpse and the other botter/cheaters: The above is taken from the T&C of LSC. Up until a few weeks ago, FTers were able to get unlimited FF miles accrued at 1000 tickets per day to their accounts and we used nothing more than anagram solvers and manual typing. We always knew there was a market for the computer/gaming based prizes but didn't care because it wasn't affecting us. NOW because of the botter/cheaters we can only get one of each redemption per account. Some of us have redemptions outstanding from last year that NEVER posted through no fault of our own. So don't blame us if we are not happy with those who spoiled it for everyone else.
You realize you took that from the section of the Terms of Service dedicated to the Live Search Toolbar. That portion has nothing to do with the games on that site. Please, in the future, try to read a little bit more before posting, so as to prevent making a mockery of yourself.
Any others?